[1.3] The Crit Philosopher - CI Crit Cold Witch - Freezing Pulse, PCoC & Echo

Hi,
I am gonna use a skill reset to create this build. Thank you for that !

Would Voll's protector works ? (Obviously I would not go CI)
It would save me the Power Charge on Critical slot.

In addition how would the unique ring Thief's torment fit in there ? Would there be enough freezing pulse to sustain it ?

Lastly if I do not want to go the CI road (I will consider a CI build once/if I got a Shavronne), do I need to make changes other than not taking the CI node ?

Thanks !
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edessiex wrote:
Hi,
I am gonna use a skill reset to create this build. Thank you for that !

Would Voll's protector works ? (Obviously I would not go CI)
It would save me the Power Charge on Critical slot.

In addition how would the unique ring Thief's torment fit in there ? Would there be enough freezing pulse to sustain it ?

Lastly if I do not want to go the CI road (I will consider a CI build once/if I got a Shavronne), do I need to make changes other than not taking the CI node ?

Thanks !


Hm, not sure if Voll's Protector would do the trick, for even if you were to go life based instead of CI, it gives very little armor.

As of Thief's Torment, it only leeches mana and life with your attacks, and Freezing Pulse is a spell, so it will be useless. And giving away one ring slot is not worth it, IMO.

And if you go life based you need to stack life AND a little bit of Energy Shield. Instead of using Regalias as Body Armours I suggest looking to Saintly Chainmails instead. CI build includes CI node, Ghost Reaver and a lot of Energy Shield nodes. You can use the pre-CI tree and tweak it a little.

But I am not an expert in life builds, so you should check out other FP guides which use HP instead. Bada's Cold Witch Guide is incredibly good.
IGN: DylanRyder
The Crit Philosopher: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960124
Dominus Split Runs guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1212404
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edessiex wrote:
Hi,
I am gonna use a skill reset to create this build. Thank you for that !

Would Voll's protector works ? (Obviously I would not go CI)
It would save me the Power Charge on Critical slot.

In addition how would the unique ring Thief's torment fit in there ? Would there be enough freezing pulse to sustain it ?

Lastly if I do not want to go the CI road (I will consider a CI build once/if I got a Shavronne), do I need to make changes other than not taking the CI node ?

Thanks !


Instead of voll wich is pretty bad just use a 4L with Ice spear+gmp+faster casting+pcoc.

I do that, if u play solo its even easyere witht the curse assassin mark.

Iam at 70K with freezing pulse life base on a 5L (gem lvl 19, lvl86 only)
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keta wrote:
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edessiex wrote:
Hi,
I am gonna use a skill reset to create this build. Thank you for that !

Would Voll's protector works ? (Obviously I would not go CI)
It would save me the Power Charge on Critical slot.

In addition how would the unique ring Thief's torment fit in there ? Would there be enough freezing pulse to sustain it ?

Lastly if I do not want to go the CI road (I will consider a CI build once/if I got a Shavronne), do I need to make changes other than not taking the CI node ?

Thanks !


Instead of voll wich is pretty bad just use a 4L with Ice spear+gmp+faster casting+pcoc.

I do that, if u play solo its even easyere witht the curse assassin mark.

Iam at 70K with freezing pulse life base on a 5L (gem lvl 19, lvl86 only)


70k? Can you link your items and show how you reached so high dps?
Cool thanks for the reply. I guess Voll's is better for other build then.
I will try it this build and switch to CI when I got enough ES.
Updated the original post with the following changes:

- Added Herald of Ice information in the Recommended Skill Set section.
- Added Assassin's Mark as an alternative curse in the Recommended Skill Set section.
- Added Doedre's Elixir and Rumi's Concoction to the Flasks section.
- Added mana-related issues to the FAQs section.
- Added a question regarding the acquisition of unique items for the build to the FAQs section.
- Added some footnotes regarding some choices in tree optimization at the end of the Skill Tree section.
IGN: DylanRyder
The Crit Philosopher: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960124
Dominus Split Runs guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1212404
I don't understand part of your tree especially templar, why go for Faith and steel when you have no armour anyway and waste 4 skill points for 15% es - might as well get 3 nodes left in Unnatural calm and save 1 skill point for 3% more es.
Another thing is Body and soul - waste imo. Sovereignty it is a good cluster if you are using lots of auras but with your 3 that you have atm i don't see point at all - might as well go for scion es wheel.

My CI tree would look something like that

and Herald of Ice is amazing for FP i would run it instead of Purity of elements
IGN: DirtyWorX
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Sojer wrote:
I don't understand part of your tree especially templar, why go for Faith and steel when you have no armour anyway and waste 4 skill points for 15% es - might as well get 3 nodes left in Unnatural calm and save 1 skill point for 3% more es.
Another thing is Body and soul - waste imo. Sovereignty it is a good cluster if you are using lots of auras but with your 3 that you have atm i don't see point at all - might as well go for scion es wheel.
(...) And Herald of Ice is amazing for FP i would run it instead of Purity of elements


Kinda Glass Cannon-ish, that tree, isn't it? How much ES do you have from your gear?

I do have armour, tho it's a tiny bit from Doryani's Invitation. I am aware it's not optimal for the ES gain, but resistances are always good. Might as well invest them some in block nodes, that's actually what I was thinking of as the next move.

I'm actually running 4 "auras", Clarity and Discipline and including Herald of Ice and Tempest Shield, so I really need mana reduction. Gonna get some orbs of regret and try it out, it's not the first time I consider exchanging my armor for block stats; I think block is the future.
IGN: DylanRyder
The Crit Philosopher: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960124
Dominus Split Runs guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1212404
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Saxarona wrote:
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Sojer wrote:
I don't understand part of your tree especially templar, why go for Faith and steel when you have no armour anyway and waste 4 skill points for 15% es - might as well get 3 nodes left in Unnatural calm and save 1 skill point for 3% more es.
Another thing is Body and soul - waste imo. Sovereignty it is a good cluster if you are using lots of auras but with your 3 that you have atm i don't see point at all - might as well go for scion es wheel.
(...) And Herald of Ice is amazing for FP i would run it instead of Purity of elements


Kinda Glass Cannon-ish, that tree, isn't it? How much ES do you have from your gear?

I do have armour, tho it's a tiny bit from Doryani's Invitation. I am aware it's not optimal for the ES gain, but resistances are always good. Might as well invest them some in block nodes, that's actually what I was thinking of as the next move.

I'm actually running 4 "auras", Clarity and Discipline and including Herald of Ice and Tempest Shield, so I really need mana reduction. Gonna get some orbs of regret and try it out, it's not the first time I consider exchanging my armor for block stats; I think block is the future.


I'm not running CI build, but i was thinking of doing it. My tree is just my take on CI/lowlife version of the FP and by no means it is perfect.
Res should be capped just from gear and maybe purity, so getting that 20% all res might be helpful at the beginning of a league when you want to start maps, but later on not as much.

I find that I don't really need to run disc for more mana regen to sustain my AA - all you need is little mana regen on your gear and you are good to go.
I am running CoD and with Clarity, Purity of Ice and Herald of ice I have ~ 800 mana left for CoD to do its job just fine.
I agree on block nodes especially if you are running raptith.

Don't forget that FP is kind of defensive skill in itself with freezing monsters and even bosses - I can almost perma freeze 76 map bosses and rares are perma frozen even on 78 maps (gieen no enfeeble and/or extra life on monsters).
IGN: DirtyWorX
My experience so far on playing this build:

- you can easily lvl up to 40 without buying any stuff
- since you have reached cruel a2 or a3 you will get some troubles cause of the phys dmg
- you need to get some new gear and you should start using granite flasks
- i would recommend to have allways your resits as high as possible
- the main troubles you will have playing from lvl 50 to 70 if you dont have the right or recommended gear
- You will have some heavy troubles without following uniques: Rainbowstride, Rathpith, Eye of chayula and Doryanis. I would say Dream Fragments is a must have too but you can handle the freeze with our flasks too. Since you dont have them you will have some incoming frustration waves
- Generally only with high end gear party playable (endgame)
-Think about to have a 2nd high lvl arctic armour to switch in for party playing

Some playing tips could be:

- New starters should think about getting Eldritch Battery with ES Gear to run a higher arcitc armour. Since you will go for CI!
- A really nice and underrated skill setup is : Vaal Ice nova -> inc. area with quality -> added cold dmg with quality -> cold pen (there are some other gems you can easially change for cold pen)
- In my opinion cast when dmg taken will help you to aware somr of tge heavy dmg you will get since you are geared up. Choose your setup. Some could be: lvld cwdt -> quality ele prolif -> quality cold pen -> quality cold snap

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So far my experience with this build :)
Last edited by PathOfDisco#5969 on Sep 8, 2014, 1:00:57 PM

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