Rather comprehensive feedback (not kidding), because some people were asking for it

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tmaciak wrote:
I agree with most of notes but not with:

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moozooh wrote:

* Vaal orb! A great item sink for legacy items, especially on the bog that is Standard economy. Seriously, it's the best orb in terms of item economy, as the rate of destroying items that way is far greater than the rate of creating more powerful versions.


Vaal Orb is the worst orb here and it's purpose, it means being item sink, exposes thing I despise most in this game, it means trading dependency.

As casual player having at most 1-2 hours per day for playing, and who would like to play mostly and the best, exclusively self-found, I just accumulate Vaal Orbs as they are unusable to me. Not worth to risk on good items, not worth to yolo on crap. Just useless.

The same stands for most Vaal Skills, especially melee ones. They're just not worth lost sockets.


You simply don't know how to use the vaal orbs then.

It's an amazing orb for rolling strongboxes(6 links, 6 mods on jewelery), is great for using on maps(unid.8 mods, upgrade to next to tier), is great for cheap upgrades while progressing(if it rerolls it gives 6 mods or it can upgrade a gear piece),it's great for upgrading your own gems when they hit 20 and you can use it on cheap uniques for amazing effects.
Last edited by kasub#2910 on Jul 3, 2014, 1:11:43 PM
+1, Post of the Year!
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So in other words you're saying the game is totally stuffed up and should be deleted and find another to play......

In all Online games of any magnitude there will always be an unbalanced factor, where older players have better stuff and noobs suffer the consequences until they become the older players.

My 2c
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GrumpyBear5043 wrote:
So in other words you're saying the game is totally stuffed up and should be deleted and find another to play......

In all Online games of any magnitude there will always be an unbalanced factor, where older players have better stuff and noobs suffer the consequences until they become the older players.

My 2c


You cant reach the perfection in balance, but at a least you should try to reach some.

OP point is that GGG even dont try to reach any solid balance.
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Many thanks to OP for taking the time to provide such outstanding feedback.

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enjoyed the read.
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kasub wrote:
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tmaciak wrote:
I agree with most of notes but not with:

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moozooh wrote:

* Vaal orb! A great item sink for legacy items, especially on the bog that is Standard economy. Seriously, it's the best orb in terms of item economy, as the rate of destroying items that way is far greater than the rate of creating more powerful versions.


Vaal Orb is the worst orb here and it's purpose, it means being item sink, exposes thing I despise most in this game, it means trading dependency.

As casual player having at most 1-2 hours per day for playing, and who would like to play mostly and the best, exclusively self-found, I just accumulate Vaal Orbs as they are unusable to me. Not worth to risk on good items, not worth to yolo on crap. Just useless.

The same stands for most Vaal Skills, especially melee ones. They're just not worth lost sockets.


You simply don't know how to use the vaal orbs then.

It's an amazing orb for rolling strongboxes(6 links, 6 mods on jewelery), is great for using on maps(unid.8 mods, upgrade to next to tier), is great for cheap upgrades while progressing(if it rerolls it gives 6 mods or it can upgrade a gear piece),it's great for upgrading your own gems when they hit 20 and you can use it on cheap uniques for amazing effects.


Agreed. Vaaling low map and out-of-map Cartographer's boxes with high +map rolls is my new way to map since I decided to stop leveling in Ambush. You can get some crazy high quantities and running them with high MF is fantastic.
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tmaciak wrote:
Vaal Orb is the worst orb here... Not worth to risk on good items


i kinda disagree
Spoiler

though you shouldnt be doing that if you dont have a solid backup
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Last edited by dealer13#1544 on Jul 3, 2014, 5:06:42 PM
OP: Nothing to add but +1 :D
Last edited by Startkabels#3733 on Jul 3, 2014, 5:45:18 PM
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kasub wrote:
It's an amazing orb for rolling strongboxes(6 links, 6 mods on jewelery), is great for using on maps(unid.8 mods, upgrade to next to tier), is great for cheap upgrades while progressing(if it rerolls it gives 6 mods or it can upgrade a gear piece),it's great for upgrading your own gems when they hit 20 and you can use it on cheap uniques for amazing effects.


I play casually on Standard, so not strongoxes here (and AFAIK, they drop corrupted items if corrupted), usually on mid tier maps (70-75) and leveling gem to 20 takes me sometimes few months on few characters, so I will not risk to broke them, better to use for 20% quality recipe.

Considering that Vaal Orbs drop rarer than chaoses, it's not worth to use them on low ilvl items.

You think that I don't know what I can get using Vaal Orbs. I exactly know what I can get, but considering risk/gain ratio, it's unusable for me.

I can understand than for trading nolifer with gambling addiction is a great tool, but for casual player like me, it's crap.

Anticipation slowly dissipates...
Last edited by tmaciak#3784 on Jul 4, 2014, 7:22:54 AM

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