[HC] Avatar of Fire Molten Strike | 53k dps | Full Guide level 87 (updated 1.1.4)

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Enemix899 wrote:

Your thoughts about carnage heart on that build?

Carnage Heart's life leech is physical only. Would not work out for this build because Avatar of Fire.

Is there a reference somewhere that AoF works the way you describe? Seems to me that it would take 50% of the 40% physical damage you do.

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battled wrote:

Why do you have atziru's promise? Only thing you get from it is chaos resistance under AoF.
I also have a similar build but wielding dual doryanis and using infernal blow :].

Wow, you're right. Silly me i'll replace that with a regular amethyst flask ^^ / ruby

Questions answered

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wenlock wrote:

Is there a reference somewhere that AoF works the way you describe? Seems to me that it would take 50% of the 40% physical damage you do.

For scaling with physical that is how it works, however you do NO DAMAGE other than fire. Which means that you do 0 physical damage to leech with.

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wenlock wrote:

Is there a reference somewhere that AoF works the way you describe? Seems to me that it would take 50% of the 40% physical damage you do.

Molten strike says it converts 60% of physical damage to fire. Avatar of Fire says that it converts 50% of physical damage to fire. 50+60=110% conversion, which is normalized to 100%.
Heres an example of how the mechanics work, which AoF follows (AoF is not in the example, it would just muck it up a bit)
For this example to easily explain it imagine he has *somehow* 70% conversion from physical to fire. He then *somehow* has 60% conversion from physical to cold. These are over 100%, so its all getting converted to something, we just need to find out how much goes to what. 70+60 = 130, so to find out phys->fire we use 70/130 = 53.8%, and 60/130= 46.2% So we have about 54% phys->fire and about 46 phys->cold.

If we say he is also using molten strike, 60% of physical is converted to fire. Because this comes from a skill, it is never scaled. Therefore, the percentages we have found beforehand are multiplied by the remaining 40% of the scalable damage for 53.8*0.4 = 21.52 and 46.2*0.4= 18.48. So if he had a super hrimsorrow and a super chernogs pillar, while using molten strike we would be dealing 81.52% fire damage and 18.48% cold damage.

This is why with AoF and molten strike, 100% of physical damage is converted to fire damage.

If you don't believe it from me, and would rather trust the wiki, this confirms what I am saying.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Damage_conversion

Bumped for my question :S, I been looking for a dev response to this but can't find one. I always thought you need other conversion items to reach 100%.
If it works like you say I'm going to make my build that I theory crafted.

With a response like that, I'm gonna just take your word for it. Sweet. Time to make my cheap ass PoTCG MS build. Yeah I know I'm poor :S

Got some questions for the OP.
Would fire penetration be better to use than added fire damage?
Also do you plan on uploading any videos?
My current Mara I'm leveling is pretty close to your tree so I'm respecing a bit to follow yours closer.

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wenlock wrote:

Got some questions for the OP.
Would fire penetration be better to use than added fire damage?
Also do you plan on uploading any videos?
My current Mara I'm leveling is pretty close to your tree so I'm respecing a bit to follow yours closer.

I have already explained the fire pen question if you check the questions answered section, and suppose I can upload some vids if there is enough demand for it.

Bump, does anyone else want vids?