Uber Atziri as a Melee

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

yeah they hit hard for sure, I mean it is the current ultimate boss.

what is your armor / es?? and would you be at 78 block too? or is it just 78 spell block? and always atziri step / anvil for her, or tried rainbow / SOL too?

with saffell's frame i have only spell block. i dont need rainbow\sol when my spell block is already capped.

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abbaco wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

yeah they hit hard for sure, I mean it is the current ultimate boss.

what is your armor / es?? and would you be at 78 block too? or is it just 78 spell block? and always atziri step / anvil for her, or tried rainbow / SOL too?

with saffell's frame i have only spell block. i dont need rainbow\sol when my spell block is already capped.

oh right saffell, duuh

Can it be, you are not blocking her puncture and even though armor dont help the bleed, it is based off the initial hit (iirc)??

well, not sure if you got it done but here's a couple ideas to deal with the adds.
I haven't done atziri yet (I wish I had the time to level my character but busy as heck these past couple months)

You can use frost wall (with increased duration) to block off part of the route they take.

Conversion trap with multi trap and inc duration for some help.

Vaal Cyclone charged. Only use it on the adds. Could be used in conjunction with the other 2 mentioned.

a weapon or gem swap with dominating blow may also be helpful

Good luck. I have a molten strike build I've been making that would love to give her a shot.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

Can it be, you are not blocking her puncture and even though armor dont help the bleed, it is based off the initial hit (iirc)??

Hard to say what kill me.
My armor was 10197(49% reduction) without endurance charges and i have remove bleeding mod on all my pots.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

well, not sure if you got it done but here's a couple ideas to deal with the adds.
I haven't done atziri yet (I wish I had the time to level my character but busy as heck these past couple months)

You can use frost wall (with increased duration) to block off part of the route they take.

Conversion trap with multi trap and inc duration for some help.

Vaal Cyclone charged. Only use it on the adds. Could be used in conjunction with the other 2 mentioned.

a weapon or gem swap with dominating blow may also be helpful

Good luck. I have a molten strike build I've been making that would love to give her a shot.

ads on healing phase isnt a problem with detona dead.

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abbaco wrote:

not possible for cyclone ST\Aegis\Bor build
near 6k life, 78spell block, 15% dodge spell dmg, 88\98(flask) res, 14k dps with LOH gem.
and still cant survive split phase.

gear

For Heal phase

Yea 6k hp dosnt seem to be enough to survive a couple of really big shots in a row from atziri. One of my first attempts at normal atziri was with a max block build and 10k hp. It worked fine until atziri gets down to less than half health then she seems to attack more viciously. A couple of her flameblasts got through my block one after another and I couldnt leech my life back up fast enough.

I switched out all of my block passive and gear to get more Es and more dps 16k es with the ability to leech 11k+ es per second made normal atziri super easy as long as I don't desync and stop leeching.

I don't think any builds that focus on block evasion armor ect are going to be able to beat uber atziri. You invest too many points into those defensive abilities and your dps ends up suffering which means you won't be able to leech or regeneration enough life when those really strong hits do end up gettin past your block and other abilities.

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abbaco wrote:

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Madcow1120 wrote:

well, not sure if you got it done but here's a couple ideas to deal with the adds.
I haven't done atziri yet (I wish I had the time to level my character but busy as heck these past couple months)

You can use frost wall (with increased duration) to block off part of the route they take.

Conversion trap with multi trap and inc duration for some help.

Vaal Cyclone charged. Only use it on the adds. Could be used in conjunction with the other 2 mentioned.

a weapon or gem swap with dominating blow may also be helpful

Good luck. I have a molten strike build I've been making that would love to give her a shot.

ads on healing phase isnt a problem with detona dead.

Don't you need corpses on the ground to detonate? it seems like whenever I kill an add the corpse disappears.

Also just thought about this can the adds be knocked back? What if u had a 6l 2h weapon on swap with reave increased aoe and kickback gem you could stand at atziri and keep the adds really far away assuming they can be knocked back.

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

Ill be attempting uber atziri after I hit lvl 92. Its going to be a personal goal of mine to beat her with a melee build and no snapshotting currently sitting at.

16k es with discipline
120k dps with hatred and 5 power charges
Atziri acuity for instant leech
93% crit chance should help keep my flasks up often.

I'm running reave with multi strike, melee physical dmg, melee dmg full life, increased crit dmg and conc effect. I get power charges from ice spear linked with gmp Pcoc Cwdt.

wow, CI crit reave with 16k es O_O

how you got so much es? and can you rely on cwdt pcoc with atziri tho?

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

Ill be attempting uber atziri after I hit lvl 92. Its going to be a personal goal of mine to beat her with a melee build and no snapshotting currently sitting at.

16k es with discipline
120k dps with hatred and 5 power charges
Atziri acuity for instant leech
93% crit chance should help keep my flasks up often.

I'm running reave with multi strike, melee physical dmg, melee dmg full life, increased crit dmg and conc effect. I get power charges from ice spear linked with gmp Pcoc Cwdt.

wow, CI crit reave with 16k es O_O

how you got so much es? and can you rely on cwdt pcoc with atziri tho?

Check out Dimenrush #1 claw CI build in the shadow section that's basically my build I just adapted it to witch and dagger its pure es gear no armor or evasion and take all of the es nodes on the tree.

Cwdt and Pcoc work well during atziri split phase when there's something for ice spear to hit. It dosnt proc too often on her single phase but I find don't need the adds dps when its just a single atziri I'm dealing with.

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

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abbaco wrote:

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Madcow1120 wrote:

well, not sure if you got it done but here's a couple ideas to deal with the adds.
I haven't done atziri yet (I wish I had the time to level my character but busy as heck these past couple months)

You can use frost wall (with increased duration) to block off part of the route they take.

Conversion trap with multi trap and inc duration for some help.

Vaal Cyclone charged. Only use it on the adds. Could be used in conjunction with the other 2 mentioned.

a weapon or gem swap with dominating blow may also be helpful

Good luck. I have a molten strike build I've been making that would love to give her a shot.

ads on healing phase isnt a problem with detona dead.

Don't you need corpses on the ground to detonate? it seems like whenever I kill an add the corpse disappears.

Also just thought about this can the adds be knocked back? What if u had a 6l 2h weapon on swap with reave increased aoe and kickback gem you could stand at atziri and keep the adds really far away assuming they can be knocked back.

Im going to try this knockback idea on normal atziri, i can just swap my life gain on hit with it and see what happens