[2.0] THOR'S RAINBOWNUKE: DO ALL MAPS, UBER ATZIRI, AND EXPLOSIONS!

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VixTrader wrote:

Thanks for the answers.

1) I'm doing rathpith globe, so I suppose I should just use Vorici. But 285 chromes is a lot !

2) I'm lvl 69, not using RF but I am doing everything else the same as the OP. I'm just going to ditch the 12 points he spends on RF and put those in damage nodes instead.

So I guess as my damage gets better I'll leech a little more, but I don't know if it's ever going to feel like enough vs hard hitting single targets.

Yeah, at level 69 you are not going to have enough damage to rely on a small amount of leech. You're going to have to use the life leech gem for a while until you can get your DPS up. And yeah, 285 chroms is expensive (you might be able to get it cheaper by just paying for RR and hoping to get lucky with the third socket... odds are probably better than 1/12 of getting it), but I blew through about 1500 chroms trying to get RRR on a Rathpith globe before Forsaken Masters dropped, so it's not too bad in that light ;)

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VixTrader wrote:

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tackle70 wrote:

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VixTrader wrote:

1) Did you guys just roll your 3 Red socket shields, or did you use the crafting bench?

2) How is 1% leech enough? Granted I've only been playing the character for 10 minutes, but the first rogue exile I encountered killed me because I couldn't leech anything off a single target.

You can chrome any shield that has a STR requirement to RRR quite easily. For any pure INT shield (and probably any INT/DEX), you should use Vorici.

The leech question is a bit more complex. If you are using the official build and have everything together (90+ passive tree, all the requisite gear), then you should have an OK amount of base ES regen and enough DPS that 1% leech is sufficient - remember that you can pop a ruby flask to get a ton of regen since it will mitigate the RF degen.

If you are using my variant, then 1% is at times not enough leech, which is why Warlord's Mark is linked, as it provides an additional 5.4% life leech.

And if all else fails, you can always stick a life leech gem in your Mjolner if you want to be super careful.

Thanks for the answers.

1) I'm doing rathpith globe, so I suppose I should just use Vorici. But 285 chromes is a lot !

2) I'm lvl 69, not using RF but I am doing everything else the same as the OP. I'm just going to ditch the 12 points he spends on RF and put those in damage nodes instead.

So I guess as my damage gets better I'll leech a little more, but I don't know if it's ever going to feel like enough vs hard hitting single targets.

First spend about 2ex equal of chromes and got 3offs several times but always with atleast one green socket. In the end i spend that 285 to craft colors at bench :S

Well, initial impressions for anybody interested in a lower budget version:

1) The damage is absolutely INSANE ! I've never had a character that puts out so much damage at lvl 69, being so under geared and still having so many skill points to spend in damage nodes. I'm ripping through lvl 75 maps with a lvl 69 character not even slowing down a bit. I'm going to try Atziri in a couple levels :)

2) Oh the lag... I thought I had a pretty good computer. I've got last years 21 inch iMac, but man the lag is noticeable compared to my split arrow ranger.

3) 1% Leech isn't enough, so you have to use a life leech gem. Makes no difference really, mobs melt from the AOE damage even with the life leech gem instead of Iron Will.

4) It's annoying having to switch to molten strike every time a tougher single target guy comes out, so I just use lightning strike all the time. Molten is definitely better, but not good enough to justify the gem swapping.

5) I use 7 Aura's, not 6. Adding in Purity of Elements means I don't need any resists what so ever on gear. Even running 7 aura's my life pool is easily sustainable.

6) I'm surprised how much of a non issue elemental reflect mobs are. I was expecting them to be harder. I guess this might be an advantage to having lower damage.


Here's my gear if anybody is interested:





I'll update again when I get my Volls Amulet, a new ring, and a few more levels to skill into more damage nodes. Having fun so far.

I already gathered all the gear for this build but I need to level a char for it. Any recommendations on what to use for leveling in terms of skill gems that would work with the same tree?

Thanks!

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VixTrader wrote:

4) It's annoying having to switch to molten strike every time a tougher single target guy comes out, so I just use lightning strike all the time. Molten is definitely better, but not good enough to justify the gem swapping.

You'll want to use molten strike for problematic high level bosses e.g. shrine piety / courtyard trio so that you can kill them in just a couple seconds before they can do anything dangerous. It's worth swapping in those cases.

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6) I'm surprised how much of a non issue elemental reflect mobs are. I was expecting them to be harder. I guess this might be an advantage to having lower damage.

I still die occasionally to reflect packs that I can't see (e.g. anything that pops out of the ground right under me / strongbox rare packs with ele reflect)... I 1-shot the whole pack but die in the process just because I couldn't see that it was ele reflect.

Still working out how I can deal with that as dying at level 93 even once every 30 maps or so is an effing pain. If I can see the pack, it's no problem since I just pop a flask and then take almost no damage, but it's those damn hidden mobs and strongboxes that get me sometimes :(

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but it's those damn hidden mobs and strongboxes that get me sometimes :(

I think likely the answer is how you're using your flasks. You sound like the type that waits to see what's attacking you or hurting you, and then pop the appropriate flask. It works great but like you said sometimes you just don't have time.

My style is quite a bit different. I pop 4 flasks every time I attack a pack with a rare in it, or every time just after I open a strong box but before I start attacking.


Atziri's Promoise / Sapphire of Heat / Topaz of Staunching / divination distillate


Those get popped in succession pretty much every 10 seconds. My 5th is a ruby of staunching, only used when I really need it.

I just hit "q w e r" before attacking, reflect can't really hurt you then.

idk man, i mean its getting more and more frustrating, i keep getting one or two shoted on 73+ maps, by random shit, idk what im doing wrong, everything i read its all honey and dps and np and im getting only frustrations...



4.3k es 250regen @ lvl 73 in rampage, dont have access to shav ring(none for sale) or volls devotion(maybe later) so Rf is out of the question in this league.


Bosses take forever, rares take more than they should, packs instagib me sometimes even with flask management, im thinking maybe gem levels, but im pretty sure 2-3 more gem levels aint gonna make a big diff. Wth am i doing wrong?

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Newb4evar wrote:

idk man, i mean its getting more and more frustrating, i keep getting one or two shoted on 73+ maps, by random shit, idk what im doing wrong, everything i read its all honey and dps and np and im getting only frustrations...

4.3k es 250regen @ lvl 73 in rampage, dont have access to shav ring(none for sale) or volls devotion(maybe later) so Rf is out of the question in this league.


Bosses take forever, rares take more than they should, packs instagib me sometimes even with flask management, im thinking maybe gem levels, but im pretty sure 2-3 more gem levels aint gonna make a big diff. Wth am i doing wrong?

This just isn't a good build for that low a level, especially if you don't already have 20/20 Discharge and Arc gems.

Your DPS is low because low level 0% gems and you will struggle against physical damage without Voll's (due to lack of endurance charges).

This isn't really a great build unless you have Volls and are at least level 80 and preferably 85+.

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VixTrader wrote:

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Phoenix320 wrote:

yeah being broke and not having a good farming toon since the patch is a major issue for me right now. The game is pretty much at a standstill and no longer fun. If I could afford a shavs, and shavs ring I am sure I would be looking at it differently, but this patch has pretty much ruined the game for me.

Interesting... How did the patch ruin the game? To me it was a great improvement. And how did the new patch interfere with your ability to get a Shavs? I think the odds are just as low now as they were before the patch aren't they? Shavs just isn't an item meant to be had by everybody, but the game can still be fun without one.

Here's my Rainbownuke armor, pretty sexy huh?

I can tell the patch is great. I know it is a major improvement on the game it's self. I absolutely will not dispute that. I blew close to 250ex gearing out my toon for a life based version of this with no snap shotting in mind since I knew that was going. I went, blew my cash I had, and now I am broke with a build that doesn't work anymore. Since I am broke I can't buy shit to respec into an ES version, so it is leaving me at a cross roads. I either need to start all over or by some miracle sell all my shit aside from my belt and mjolner, volls and romiras. It's just frustrating because I really commited to it in an extremely hard way, so this stole my motivation really bad.

My flameblast toon seems like it doesn't do the damage it used to do either, so that rules out effective farming to get more ex still.

Can you not run RF if you don't have Shavronne's Revelation? I'm currently lvl 84 with about 4k ES (Solaris Lorica boo) and 91 fire res with a lvl 20 vitality, still can't run RF.