[1.2] 'Say hello to my little friend' 40K Puncture/28K LMP Lightning Arrow

I told the guy that Pierce Chance from Projectile Weakness won't get counted as damage - it was never meant to be taken as that means Pierce gem won't work either - it obviously does.

I was kind of wondering as he posted - if you are not going to use a Pierce Gem and get to 100% chance to Pierce, what the heck is the point of using a Drillneck? It would probably get outperformed by 1-2c Quivers.

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AngryCustard wrote:

I have also started playing around with Crit, I have my LA Crit at 20% and my Frenzy at 25% it is making a serious difference. Incredibly surprise at how big a difference is making.

You shouldn't be surprised I told you it would!

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Asidra wrote:

I told the guy that Pierce Chance from Projectile Weakness won't get counted as damage - it was never meant to be taken as that means Pierce gem won't work either - it obviously does.

I was kind of wondering as he posted - if you are not going to use a Pierce Gem and get to 100% chance to Pierce, what the heck is the point of using a Drillneck? It would probably get outperformed by 1-2c Quivers.

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AngryCustard wrote:

I have also started playing around with Crit, I have my LA Crit at 20% and my Frenzy at 25% it is making a serious difference. Incredibly surprise at how big a difference is making.

You shouldn't be surprised I told you it would!

Haha yeah, now I am obsessed with crit. I grabbed up a level 78 Harbinger which I am gonna take a shot at crafting.

Also planning on purchasing a couple of interesting pieces of gear in the next couple of days which should do some pretty cool things for my char.

So, in the last couple of days I have leveled from 88 to 90, re-spec'd my tree to include Crit, Swapped Alpha's Howl for Rat's Nest, picked up a set of corrupted Atziri's Step with + 1 Frenzy Charge and a 6Linked Daresso's Defiance.

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The result = 32K


I've updated the main post with the new gear and screenshots.

Unless you want frenzy to be some kind of pseudo-AOE attack with 100% pierce chance, using pierce as an additional support link really isn't worth it in my experience, 55% increased projectile damage isn't that significant a bonus for a whole gem slot...

If you can get the colours I would strongly recommend trying out either increased crit multiplier (even with your relatively low existing crit chance and multiplier I'm fairly sure this would be significantly better than pierce), or alternatively power charge on critical, which would give you a GLOBAL 150% increased crit chance (200% if you invest 2 extra points in skill tree) after a few shots, thereby increasing your dps for both frenzy and LA

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Bed wrote:

Unless you want frenzy to be some kind of pseudo-AOE attack with 100% pierce chance, using pierce as an additional support link really isn't worth it in my experience, 55% increased projectile damage isn't that significant a bonus for a whole gem slot...

If you can get the colours I would strongly recommend trying out either increased crit multiplier (even with your relatively low existing crit chance and multiplier I'm fairly sure this would be significantly better than pierce), or alternatively power charge on critical, which would give you a GLOBAL 150% increased crit chance (200% if you invest 2 extra points in skill tree) after a few shots, thereby increasing your dps for both frenzy and LA

But I am using Drillneck... 100% Chance to Pierce is 100% More projectile damage.

Yes, but you have 45% from the quiver and tree. So the Pierce gem itself only nets you 55 more, which may be inferior to another gem. Play around and see. Obviously, you want it on LA regardless because you actually want the Pierce chance. But since you don't actually need Frenzy to Pierce, DPS is the sole reason - it may lose out to other gem options.

Hope you got a Tabby ^.^

And gratz on the lovely Vaal Orb on the boots. You inspired me to try but I just got a white slot :(

Welcome aboard the crit train. :P

Also, all I got was a stupid white socket too.

I was thinking about this more, and actually I bet Pierce should stay on Frenzy. The Physical Projectile damage gem at 20/20 is +58% physical projectile damage, while also taking 10% off attack speed, and it and Faster Attacks always test as my 2 most potent gems.

And "Projectile Damage" that is given by the Drillneck is awesome for physical/elemental combo skills, much better than the Physical Projectile damage gem, because it counts twice, to the full physical and then after the Lightning Conversion as well.

I would actually venture to say that given Pierce adds 55% more Projectile damage, it may be the single best DPS gem for your Frenzy.

Edit: just read your main post - you gotta remove your 30k AOE number by Lightning Arrow - no one does that. If we did all our AOE stats would show ridonkulous numbers. The DPS tooltips are really only good to compare like skills with like performance supports (pierce/chain/lmp/gmp). If people start calculating stuff with pretty arbitrary calculations, we will start to lose a lot of value in looking through people's numbers.

Overall though the guide is looking good. Nice work. For a long time, Chain was the undisputed leader for LA clearing speed, and I wonder if the Drillneck alters that some, as 100 more Projectile damage is a ton, and LA still had it's innate chaining to ensure area clearage regardless of enemy position.

The only thing I would worry about stacking damage with Pierce on Frenzy is it's harder to math your damage cap against reflects. I usually run just shy of what it would take to one-shot myself. You'd probably want to stay well below that because of stray arrows hitting yellow feet packs.

psssh

He could just run in a circle until he has a clear path shot lined up!

He has an evasion based build, he won't get hit 2x in a row so it shouldn't be an issue. Not enough hits on just a single target attack for the entropy to come around again.