1.3 The Community's Molten Strike, Face Melting Build!! 1h+shield and 2h variants available

What about the new herald of ash gem? It seems to fit really well with this build!
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So which option is better, how do you think?

Honestly im kinda tired and ive hit a bit of a wall with my aura build. I think if going avatar of fire, grace or determination (whichever gives you the most armour) and anger with tempest shield if you need to cap block. so 2 points into sovereignty. If not aof then hatred, grace or determination and tempest shield. I really thought 21000 armour would do a bit more then it does.
Last edited by Fhark#5469 on Aug 26, 2014, 7:38:19 AM
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Braddo wrote:
What about the new herald of ash gem? It seems to fit really well with this build!


Herald of Ash would be solid if you wanted to boost your DPS more. You would have to drop Tempest Shield if you planned on using it.
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Fhark wrote:
I really thought 21000 armour would do a bit more then it does.


The further I play the more I am convinced mitigation is not worth as much as it once was. Builds that I have devised using once very tankish mechanics are not feeling more like a glass cannon. They game is definitely supporting a kill them before they kill me play style.
Last edited by Kartikdon#5867 on Aug 26, 2014, 2:37:01 PM
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Kartikdon wrote:
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Fhark wrote:
I really thought 21000 armour would do a bit more then it does.


The further I play the more I am convinced mitigation is not worth as much as it once was. Builds that I have devised using once very tankish mechanics are not feeling more like a glass cannon. They game is definitely supporting a kill them before they kill me play style.

For what it's worth, I dug up the advice I was remembering earlier regarding dropping IR. It was from Dmillz's build thread where he recommends dropping it and running Determination instead. Here's what he had to say:


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Dmillz wrote:
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guffel87 wrote:
I'd like to try out a really tanky build for the upcoming 2Week Ladder.
Like your 1h+Shield MoltenStrike build looks interesting. But why dont you take Iron Reflexes? I think I read all your guide but you didnt mention a single word about it, am I missing something obvious?

It's good for leveling but not once you have decent gear late game. I currently have 4k armor without it and 1300 evasion. Having 5300 vs 4000 armor is very little difference. However with 1300 evasion I have about 20% chance to evade on top of the 4000 armor.


http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/911916/page/6
Last edited by tanis0#4613 on Aug 26, 2014, 6:06:02 PM
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Braddo wrote:
What about the new herald of ash gem? It seems to fit really well with this build!



In Standard, I recently converted my evasion-based Duelist Frenzy Claw/Shield char to Molten Strike--pretty amazing upgrade and the only real changes I did with my passive tree is to spec out of the frenzy nodes. To answer your question, I just tweaked my gear today so that I could use Herald of Ash on top of the Hatred+Grace I had been running, and it gave me about a 9% DPS boost on the tooltip (31,271 to 34,218). YMMV, e.g. I don't know how HoA will synergize with AoF or other setups. The kill speed upgrade is definitely noticeable for me. I lost around 5-6% life (~5300 to ~5000) due to having to use Alpha Howl to run the auras+HoA--this is without any mana reduction nodes taken in the tree. I end up with 29 unreserved mana.

My passives
My gear
Spoiler
Vaal Haste and Whirling Blades are the only skills I cast off mana. Molten off BM. Everything else is off CoDT.

Last edited by puaiohi#6483 on Aug 26, 2014, 6:51:56 PM
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Kartikdon wrote:
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Fhark wrote:
I really thought 21000 armour would do a bit more then it does.


The further I play the more I am convinced mitigation is not worth as much as it once was. Builds that I have devised using once very tankish mechanics are not feeling more like a glass cannon. They game is definitely supporting a kill them before they kill me play style.


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i am pure armor, so i got myself those damn 7 endurance charges to be able to survive properly. my hps melt like ice in a desert...

daresso's defiance, acrobatics - 46% dodge + evasion >> rest
So guys, if im running Enduring Cry + Imortal Call + CWDT + Molten Shell - the molten shell need to be at certain level to proc with the CWDT or can i lvl it all the way to 20 and don´t bother about it?

Im asking that cuz i was reading some stuff that was like.. EC needed to be only at certain lvl and CWDT at lvl 1 only.. is that correct ?
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Ricardobdi wrote:
So guys, if im running Enduring Cry + Imortal Call + CWDT + Molten Shell - the molten shell need to be at certain level to proc with the CWDT or can i lvl it all the way to 20 and don´t bother about it?

Im asking that cuz i was reading some stuff that was like.. EC needed to be only at certain lvl and CWDT at lvl 1 only.. is that correct ?


you will need two CWDT set ups.
(patch notes "The level requirement of gems augmented by Cast on Damage Taken may not exceed the level requirement of the Cast on Damage Taken gem.")

note: gem lvl is not level requirement.

so a lvl 1 CWDT will only cast spells requiring lvl 31 and lower. therefore only a molten shell lvl 1 to 7 will be cast.

immortal call lvl increased the duration, so a low lvl is okay.
enduring cry lvl increases the range and charges gainer per enemie, low lvl is okay,
but low lvl molten shell isnt.

i usually do:
CWDT LvL 1
Enduring Cry(LvL 5 Max)
Curse XY
Inc. AOE/Devouring Totem(LvL 1 Max)/Summon Skeletons(LvL 7 Max)
(atm i run summon skeletons and devouring totem and no curse - got that with curse on hit with leap jump and increased AoE and faster attacks atm)

all leveled:
CWDT
Immortal Call
Molten Shell
Life Leech
Last edited by gloobonious#3560 on Aug 27, 2014, 2:25:23 AM
Hi, guys. I decided to switch from infernal blow to molten strike this patch. Everybody was talking about how doryani's catalyst deals enormous amount of damage with MS+AoF and this is the part I'm confused about. I'm using MS+multistrike+wep ele dmg+fire pen+faster attack and blood magic. My tooltip dps is around 12k with hatered. I've pretty much followed the tree given in this guide. Is this normal? I was expecting a bit more, since I was doing around 15k with my infernal blow. Thanks in advance.

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