1.3 The Community's Molten Strike, Face Melting Build!! 1h+shield and 2h variants available

ok thanks for info, ill look for a phys 1 hander.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

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ThePlash wrote:

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Madcow1120 wrote:

BoR nice drop.

In the variant I run I use a spectral throw - gmp - blind setup that I toss out now and again. I swap blind for culling and IIR when farming. It certainly does help so long as you don't go IR.

Didn't check the first page but since your build uses IR it may be worth noting in the BoR build that you are not taking IR as that would defeat the purpose of blind. That would help make it very friendly for new players.

good luck!

IIRC, blind works with IR. It doesnt work if you take Unwavering Stance

Bye

Yes, correct. Meant to mention Unwavering Stance too.

What I probably should have worded it as was blind works very well with evasion since opponents accuracy is part of the evasion equation. With IR you drop down to a flat 5% evasion chance so you're missing out on a big part of blind's effectiveness. Which is why I said I think it defeats the purpose (never said it didn't work).

Bye.

From my testing it works amazing with IR :) Dodge the hits and be able to take them when they get through.

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Kartikdon wrote:

From my testing it works amazing with IR :) Dodge the hits and be able to take them when they get through.

I thought you posted you have Unwavering Stance on that build. Or are you using blind on the main build as well.

Now imagine if you have good evasion how much more potent it'd be? Blind is pretty awesome when you can use it.

Blind is a 75% chance for the enemies to miss. Is it additive or multiplicative with Evasion chance?

If it's additive, 25% evasion + blind gives immunity, but i guess it caps out at 95% so you just need 20%. With IR, you have only the baseline 5% chance to evade, so blind gives an actual 80% chance to evade attacks.

If it's multiplicative (as in "checked separately from evasion") it's actually stronger with IR, as its "effectiveness" is higher the lower the chance to evade you already have.

Evasion is also checked with an entropy algorithm, so i guess there's still more math behind it, but from experience i can say that blind is a very good option with or without IR anyway.

Bye

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ThePlash wrote:

Blind is a 75% chance for the enemies to miss. Is it additive or multiplicative with Evasion chance?

If it's additive, 25% evasion + blind gives immunity, but i guess it caps out at 95% so you just need 20%. With IR, you have only the baseline 5% chance to evade, so blind gives an actual 80% chance to evade attacks.

If it's multiplicative (as in "checked separately from evasion") it's actually stronger with IR, as its "effectiveness" is higher the lower the chance to evade you already have.

Evasion is also checked with an entropy algorithm, so i guess there's still more math behind it, but from experience i can say that blind is a very good option with or without IR anyway.

Bye

This :) Thanks ThePlash

I have unwavering stance temporarily until 67 then I will drop it. No reason not to take unwavering until then.

evade + block + high armor = win :P

One suggestion on your Gearing buying guide. Do not check the 'online' option. Find the lowest price for the gear you look. If seller is online, all is good. If not, and seller has a seriously budget offer, just add him as friend ingame and wait until he logs in! You even get a notice so that you wan't miss you rnew 'friend'.

Notice that it might take anything for a few minutes to one day until the seller logs in. But it worths saving one or a few chaos orbs.

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Falcyon wrote:

One suggestion on your Gearing buying guide. Do not check the 'online' option. Find the lowest price for the gear you look. If seller is online, all is good. If not, and seller has a seriously budget offer, just add him as friend ingame and wait until he logs in! You even get a notice so that you wan't miss you rnew 'friend'.

Notice that it might take anything for a few minutes to one day until the seller logs in. But it worths saving one or a few chaos orbs.

Changed it a bit. It was originally designed for the purpose of simply buying 1 fusing items. something quick and dirty to get the required stats and to get progressing again.

I made a note in regards to end game items to expand their search and wait for the better deals to be online by adding them to their friends list as you mentioned.

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ThePlash wrote:

Blind is a 75% chance for the enemies to miss. Is it additive or multiplicative with Evasion chance?

If it's additive, 25% evasion + blind gives immunity, but i guess it caps out at 95% so you just need 20%. With IR, you have only the baseline 5% chance to evade, so blind gives an actual 80% chance to evade attacks.

If it's multiplicative (as in "checked separately from evasion") it's actually stronger with IR, as its "effectiveness" is higher the lower the chance to evade you already have.

Evasion is also checked with an entropy algorithm, so i guess there's still more math behind it, but from experience i can say that blind is a very good option with or without IR anyway.

Bye

I did make an assumption on the mechanic.

I looked it up.
First the obvious. "even blinded enemies will always have 100% chance to hit a character with Unwavering Stance" So, kartikdon if you are referring to blind helping with your BoR and unwavering stance character then it's not from Blind. Maybe you have more block?

As for IR it is multiplicative to evasion chance. 76.25% chance to have an enemy miss with IR. Greater with evasion.
[Chance to evade blinded enemy] = 1 - ( 0.25 * ( 1 - [Chance to evade not-blinded enemy] ) )
IR: 1-(0.25*(1-0.05)) = 76.25%

with only a 35% chance to evade
1-(0.25*(1-0.35)) = 84% chance for them to miss

so not nearly as large a deficit as I had initially thought but it does buff evade as I had assumed it did.

Something new learned everyday :)

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Falcyon wrote:

One suggestion on your Gearing buying guide. Do not check the 'online' option. Find the lowest price for the gear you look. If seller is online, all is good. If not, and seller has a seriously budget offer, just add him as friend ingame and wait until he logs in! You even get a notice so that you wan't miss you rnew 'friend'.

Notice that it might take anything for a few minutes to one day until the seller logs in. But it worths saving one or a few chaos orbs.

Take that a little further. When you add them right click and "edit note". here put the item name and price you were looking for. Helps a lot.

Also, towards end of leagues (for some reason people tend to think 1 month left which is 25% of the league is the end) some people do log in less

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Kartikdon wrote:

I made a note in regards to end game items to expand their search and wait for the better deals to be online by adding them to their friends list as you mentioned.

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Madcow1120 wrote:

Take that a little further. When you add them right click and "edit note". here put the item name and price you were looking for. Helps a lot.

Now that's good job guys ;)