Selfpunishing Cascade Cwdt Chainreactor

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let it be 25damage per cascade hit
25damage per hit * 3hits per cast * 4cast per sec * 17gems = 5100 dps per target

I guess you would never reach 25 damage per hit (which would still be too weak imo).
The average damage of GC with gem level 7 and a gem level 1 Cwdt should be 10,8. You do not use caster weapons, so it should be very difficult to reach 25 damage, even with heavy Passiv Skill investment. Additionally there are things like Resistances and Armour on enemies.

GC does not always hit 3 times, it depens on the monsters hitbox and the size of your GC's aoe.

This sounds just bad, combined with no utility due to missing gem slots.
I don't want to to devaluate your idea, it sounds cool, but I still have my qualms.

What is the precise interaction of multiple copies of the same gem linked with cwdt?
I was under the impression only one will 'gain damage' at a time as no 2 will ever fire at the same time.
Anyone know for sure?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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Aimeryan wrote:

As far as I know, each gem manages its own cooldown. The CWDT gem causes a linked gem to go on cooldown for 250ms when activated. Gems of the same name (e.g., Firestorm gems) share cooldowns; hence, you can not use two firestorms gems with CWDT (only one will proc).

This is correct

Is the only reliable source iv seen on the issue so far.

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Caliginosus wrote:

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let it be 25damage per cascade hit
25damage per hit * 3hits per cast * 4cast per sec * 17gems = 5100 dps per target

I guess you would never reach 25 damage per hit (which would still be too weak imo).
The average damage of GC with gem level 7 and a gem level 1 Cwdt should be 10,8. You do not use caster weapons, so it should be very difficult to reach 25 damage, even with heavy Passiv Skill investment. Additionally there are things like Resistances and Armour on enemies.

GC does not always hit 3 times, it depens on the monsters hitbox and the size of your GC's aoe.

This sounds just bad, combined with no utility due to missing gem slots.
I don't want to to devaluate your idea, it sounds cool, but I still have my qualms.

you are correct, 10.8 damage per hit (unmodified)
(10–15phisical 19–28cold ) *0.3 cwdt


but my claws, 6%spell damage per 5%block
12*15%dual wield block/5% = 36%spell damage
and I have 3*10spell damage + 4*16%spell damage passives (witch+shadow)
130%spell damage
to make 10.8 be turned into 25, I need a 2.3multiplier

my non crits hits already do 25 damage

this 25damage gets reduced and increased via curses/monster armor-resist/crit hits



still like to know, if monsters effective armor is capped at 90%damage reductions?

What is the point of attempting such a build with such weak damage? It cant self perpetuate unless you are hitting like 20 things at once. So why?

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SkyCore wrote:

What is the point of attempting such a build with such weak damage? It cant self perpetuate unless you are hitting like 20 things at once. So why?

Because it's fun?
You know, like... thats what it's all about.

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Because it's fun?
You know, like... thats what it's all about.

You get my cookie of the day for that statement.

Also i commend your dedication to this absurd yet beautiful mechanical idea.

Many laughs will be had if it works i imagine :).

after doing some more tests,

I am willing to point out the mistakes I made in my guide!

even if the selfdamage from cwdt-gems is over 1 selfdamage, it will never trigger the next cwdt-gem
(when I supused it did)
I came to this conclusion, after linking 3*EK to 1 cwdt, put away all armor gear, put away all loh,
I hit target with a EK, I drain life from myself, I trigger a EK-cwdt, this also drains life from myself, but it not triggers the next EK, only a monster hit or a small selfdamage hit, trigger the next EK (within the 440 selfdamage)


the only way to trigger the next cwdt gems, is bye a manual casted cascade or attack
(not sure yet, but a coc-spell could trigger this 1 selfdamage also)

vs multiple targets, I still can trigger all my 10+cascade gems within 0.25sec, thx to 1 manual casted cascade (that hits everything 3 times)
vs solo targets, this only happens 3 times per cascade cast.
so I either need to improve my fcr, or think up some attack

srry if I made some misunderstandings, its still under progress!

e/
conclusions about this:
EK-cwdt is only helpful to trigger the 440selfdamage needed
Cascade-cwdt is only helpful couse it triggers 3x80%loh*2selfpunsihments
In order to maintain survival vs solo target, I may need multiple kinds of gems (not only Cascade+EK), if I not manage to selfharm myself over 20 times per sec, with a non cwdt-spell/attack
I amy increase my armor, since the manual attack is what needs to do 1 damage (to allow multiple gems of the same kind to cwdt)
I have some new upgrades to figure out!

this sounds awsome :D i hope you can make it work just for lulz but i guess if you do, it will blow up your pc :/

I'm not sure if I get this shit right. You cast some glacial cascades, they trigger cwdt so that you get more glacial cascades, and that damage you reflect on yourself triggers cwdt with actual damage skills?

edit: Nvm I get it now.