[3.1] GLADIATOR 1H+Shield Max Block&Spell Block Tank + a BoR version

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mrblonde321 wrote:

I kinda need some help. I'm having trouble with my dps on ice crash. It seems so slow and my tooltip is 5.5k. Here's my gear:

Gear

If someone could let me know where I can raise my dps by a lot, (saw another guy doing 27k+) I'd appreciate it

IMO you want melee physical before increased AOE. It's not going to give you a million more dps, but it will up it by a lot. I have ~9k dps on ice crash with very similar gear.

You're also missing flat physical on a few pieces, which will help tremendously.

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ComradeSerge wrote:

Quite possibly, for DPS, yes. But as you already got a reply, for boss fights, extra DPS on block is better.

My biggest question right now is realistically how often do I block within 4 seconds, which seemed like if I blocked less than 3 times a second Gratuitous Violence seemed better.

GV's bleed is negligible, but the 30% increased damage should be up against bosses plus you always have 10% phys from small node. Most of the time things are dying too fast for the 10% HP explosions to matter, but when you hit tougher packs it helps.

O&O seemed a lot less useful since you could just use Blood Rage, Frenzy, or Blood Dance if you needed charges. Personally I swapped out my Rainbowstrides for legacy Blood Dance that have been fantastic for lab runs (4.5% HP regen with enchant!).

If you're getting hit by tons of things Violent Retaliation can start pulling ahead, but GV seemed the most viable since splosions helped trash and bleeding bosses increased damage. Things don't always get a chance to hit me and I have other means of Frenzy charges so I just went with GV.

How many procs are you guys seeing you're getting against bosses?

passive tree not loading... please update

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pawe1991 wrote:

Also please update full passive tree not for Bor version

It was up to date, but it got broken for some reason. Updated it again.

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aechean wrote:

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mrblonde321 wrote:

I kinda need some help. I'm having trouble with my dps on ice crash. It seems so slow and my tooltip is 5.5k. Here's my gear:

Gear

If someone could let me know where I can raise my dps by a lot, (saw another guy doing 27k+) I'd appreciate it

IMO you want melee physical before increased AOE. It's not going to give you a million more dps, but it will up it by a lot. I have ~9k dps on ice crash with very similar gear.

You're also missing flat physical on a few pieces, which will help tremendously.

My 4L setup in that gear is Ice crash, Inc AOE, melee physical, WED.

I switched to earthquake to not only see if it was better clear speed but just to check out the new ability. I definitely hits harder but nowhere near hard enough to be clearing T5+ maps.

I guess my main point is I don't really see where your endgame damage comes from. The passive tree has some damage but it's mostly EHP and block. I know I need to upgrade my weapon and I'm looking into that but with a weapon upgrade (sceptre 10-20% ele dmg, more dps) really boost my abilities from ~5-6k dps to well over 20k?

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mrblonde321 wrote:

I guess my main point is I don't really see where your endgame damage comes from. The passive tree has some damage but it's mostly EHP and block. I know I need to upgrade my weapon and I'm looking into that but with a weapon upgrade (sceptre 10-20% ele dmg, more dps) really boost my abilities from ~5-6k dps to well over 20k?

You can't expect to have 20k+ DPS in a RT build using only a 4-link...

So the reasons your dps is crap are the following: 1) 4-link; 2) your gem levels are very low, and with no quality; 3) your weapon is mediocre. (and I didn't see your tree, that might be part of the reason too)

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mrblonde321 wrote:

I guess my main point is I don't really see where your endgame damage comes from. The passive tree has some damage but it's mostly EHP and block. I know I need to upgrade my weapon and I'm looking into that but with a weapon upgrade (sceptre 10-20% ele dmg, more dps) really boost my abilities from ~5-6k dps to well over 20k?

I deviated a bit from his tree, but this poeurl.com/y8l was getting me just shy of 600% increased damage and around 90% IAS with Gladiator and 3 jewels. You could definitely get more damage, but I also have +200% armor/life with 9% health regen.

Compared to non-RT builds the lack of crit definitely hurts your damage, but with non-leg BoR and Doryani's Catlayst you should be able to get around 50k DPS. Using Atziri's Promise and Blood Dance Frenzy charges I'm just shy of 100k and I have 0 quality on my Ice Crash. New Lion's Roar will increase that substantially.

Outside of the legacy BoR and Aegis none of my gear is particularly great.

Just wanted to thumbs up this build. Running something very similar on Perandus with BoR + budget weapon and lion eye's shield. At first I took the 25% for frenzy charge while leveling, but have just re-specced to Violent retaliation and running Blood rage. Am constantly keeping between 10 - 15 stacks of it up while mapping which is a really nice boost, as well as not needing a jewel to finish capping res thanks to the preceeding node.

Build is a lot of fun and i'm steam rolling content, it's easy as hell to play so ideal for these long early league days.

Kudos.

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mrblonde321 wrote:

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aechean wrote:

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mrblonde321 wrote:

I kinda need some help. I'm having trouble with my dps on ice crash. It seems so slow and my tooltip is 5.5k. Here's my gear:

Gear

If someone could let me know where I can raise my dps by a lot, (saw another guy doing 27k+) I'd appreciate it

IMO you want melee physical before increased AOE. It's not going to give you a million more dps, but it will up it by a lot. I have ~9k dps on ice crash with very similar gear.

You're also missing flat physical on a few pieces, which will help tremendously.

My 4L setup in that gear is Ice crash, Inc AOE, melee physical, WED.

I switched to earthquake to not only see if it was better clear speed but just to check out the new ability. I definitely hits harder but nowhere near hard enough to be clearing T5+ maps.

I guess my main point is I don't really see where your endgame damage comes from. The passive tree has some damage but it's mostly EHP and block. I know I need to upgrade my weapon and I'm looking into that but with a weapon upgrade (sceptre 10-20% ele dmg, more dps) really boost my abilities from ~5-6k dps to well over 20k?

Don't underestimate flat damage on things either. I ran ice crash facebreaker a few leagues ago and realized 7-10 flat damage comes out as hundreds if not thousands of dps with enough modifiers.

If you can get your hands on redblade tramplers I think they're called? The redblade unique boot, and an abyssus helm it'll help your dps.

Speaking of which, how is abyssus with this? I was thinking about trying one out, with the block and armor the extra damage shouldnt be too bad, but I dont know.

Also these of course work best with pure psychical builds but it seems like theres enough physical damage for it to still be good? Correct me if im wrong

Hi, first of all great guide, i'm currently lvl 75 and I have been shitting on everything and I can afk and still kill monsters ! :P

However I would like to know what is better between earthquake and infernal blow. I tried Ice crash and I don't like it and sunder is fun but way worse than earthquake. I would also like to know if the chaos golem is really useful or not because I find it really difficult to reach 150+ intelligence.

Thanks for the build !


edit : also With doryani's WED gives less damage than added fire damage ( using infernal bnlow) is it normal ?