[3.1] JUGGERNAUT/BERSERKER 1H+Shield Max Block&Spell Block Tank, Atziri Killer+a BoR version

Because MoM makes 30% of damage being taken from mana. If you use 2 auras and don't have a high mana pool (which means 2k mana plus), you will have something around 100 mana left, probably even less, unless you really try hard to get as much mana as possible on gear. But even if you manage to get 200 mana with 2 auras (which is A LOT and hardly achievable), a hit of 3k damage would be transferred to 1k mana damage - which you do not have. In which case, it is taken again from life. Read here:
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mind_Over_Matter
"When Hit, 30% of damage that would have gone to your life is taken by your mana rather than life. If you don't have sufficient mana, than the remainder of the damage will be taken from your life pool."

That's why it is pointless to have MoM without EB and a very high mana pool. With 100-200 mana left, you're basically defending yourself only against minor hits, which are no threat with this build anyway. Minor hits will never ever kill you with this build.

Ho, ok ! I see :)
Thanks you rocks.

But I also feel obliged to explain to you why taking MoM without EB and a character with ES is generally a bad idea.

1) what I explained with big hits: MoM is useless for hits that deal 1k damage or more if you do not have a 1-2k mana pool left after auras.
2) even if you want MoM only for the small hits on some other build and think 100-200 mana is enough, you're wrong. The reason: you'll get hit 2-3 times, your mana will become 0, and since your mana pool is so low, your mana regen will be negligible, which means you will keep getting hit, but your mana will remain at 0, i.e. your MoM won't absorb any damage at all. You'll just be constantly at 0 mana and take all damage from your life pool. A best example of this would be a char with low armour taking shots from several tentacle female abominations in lunaris temple.

In short, if you ever want to take MoM, you need ALL of the following: ES gear with Eldritch Battery passive keystone; a lot of mana nodes for a high mana pool; a lot of mana regen nodes.

funny thing was i thought if i could get a better armor and a lesser dex req weapon i could stick to the tree and not divert... and just run vitality tempest shield hatred ...

Now it just so happened that i was able to chaos this ... on my existing 6L ...
... just because of such a big evasion boost i am tempted to get IR and forget about determination hoping this boost in armor will allow me to run with just the basic 3 vitality , temptest , hatred ...

serge , how important do you feel is armor + determination ... isnt the end result to get a % physical reduction from the armor?

I could try to get a similar armor but the amount of armor my armor would give me with Iron reflexes is pretty hard to get cheaply....

Of course, the point is high armour, not running determination by itself :) if you can achieve as much or more armour/% damage reduction with that chest and IR, and have no problems sacrificing some other passives, go for it.

Since Chris said on reddit (I think it was Chris) that there'll be more flat HP per level for all characters in the 1.2 expansion, this build might get even more tanky or also become more DPS-heavy with the same tankiness :) I am very eager to see the full patch notes.

I'm also considering buying the Grandmaster Supporter Pack to import this char into the unique map :)

http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2d6xiv/eternal_and_diamond_supporter_newsletter_76/
"One thing that constrains a lot of otherwise great builds is mana cost, so we have rethought mana costs from first principles. Almost every skill is affected."

HYPE! Patch 1.2 just might solve the mana problems of this build, especially considering it will be much more easier to get mana leech on gear now since you can craft it at the masters' benches.

Really looking forward to the expansion!

Hi Serge, seems ive been doing myself in with going crazy overload on max capping resists...


Tried saffe's fame .... didn't seem that hot for most bosses.. maybe im not using it correctly..

I usually run with vitality n hatred ... been up making lot of gear choice changes... to add chaos resists.. also using blood rage .. I hope the new changes to mana some how fix the bm gem to work at 100% mana for melee skills would give ppl without a ST a sporting chance at some average dps.

What level of dps do you need to do atziri.

That's great, because it means that instead of gear with a bunch of res, you can get some gear with a bunch of DPS, like flat physical damage on rings ;)

Oh, and GG with that chaos res, lol!

I party a lot with friends who Run RF ... and they seem more tanky and have more dps than me... how much of chaos resist is optimal?

Also do you run purity of fire / light for any ?

how are you fairing with the shock and horror in torture chamber ..

Also Landing up on some sort of a balance with my existing gear i managed to end up with this