Love playing PoE? Tired of trading or RMT - or do you enjoy either? Vote here!

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VenatorPoE wrote:
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mrpetrov wrote:
Can any of you folks out there who are more technologically accomplished than me suggest a way of determining which IP ranges generally come from which countries or regions? I was hoping to see if there are any trends by geography on the results so far?

Thanks,
P.

http://www.iplocation.net/

Lots of helpful information on that link.


Thanks, now just to work out how to submit them as a batch!

P.
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mrpetrov wrote:
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Sneakypaw wrote:
So, how are you filtering people that vote multiple times?


Survey Monkey doesn't let the same IP vote twice. Try it.

That being said, if you want to vote from different devices/IPs, you probably can. Tin foil hat time?

If you have a better idea, go ahead and do it.

P.

EDIT: What I should see is if I can see how many votes that have voted against the SFL have originated from - say - China.


I was just asking because I tried and it did let me vote again. Could have something to do with my IP changing almost every day.
“Demons run when a good man goes to war"
I am signing this petition! SFL to the moon!
i use a secret account because i am a politician that doesnt want the NSA to know i play poe.
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mrpetrov wrote:
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Sneakypaw wrote:
So, how are you filtering people that vote multiple times?


Survey Monkey doesn't let the same IP vote twice. Try it.


Actually, if your IP address is dynamic and can be changed/does change regularly, Survey Monkey will allow multiple votes.
Last edited by Kellog#5737 on Apr 23, 2014, 9:38:18 PM
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VenatorPoE wrote:

Except for the fact that GGG is the one making the decision, we are merely suggesting it. We are not explicitly demanding it. We all still play the game, we still love what GGG created already. Are we satisfied fully with the game right now? No. Is GGG? No. (A wonderful elaboration is posted in the general discussion section today by Charan. A must read for everyone interested in giving constructive feedback, and also clarifies how hard it is to pick the right word - "satisfaction" is not an entirely good choice.) They want to add more things, and we are giving some suggestions. Your logic "I'm not supporting the forum mob" is really flawed.

The SFL has been suggested, it was turned down (more then one quote from Chris Wilson and other devs stating this floating around here), then its been suggested again and again and again since and now with a new poll! Its not you doing this, sure, but you don't control the group - I am reflecting on what I see from reading the forums every day for a few hours over the last few years.

Also, this is removing a huge chunk of the game, not adding as you say or even changing (just like how "adding" options removed loot competition) It's a simple formula: take anything in the game that people don't like and suggest it be removed. Fighting over loot sux, having to make friends to gain advantages takes effort, learning prices of items so you don't get ripped off trading is a pain. So hows this? lets remove everything bad, but make it "optional" so people who claim they like that bad stuff in the game can still do it if they want.

Unfortunately, because the game is multi-player all it takes is one persons preference to shift the group to one side as we all saw the total dominance of the PA loot setting in public games. I think when you get the SFL it will be more popular then the other leagues actually, it will be boring as hell but it's still not worth the effort of going back to the other leagues because they will then ONLY be populated with people vested in trade and RMT'ing etc.

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VenatorPoE wrote:
Your second paragraph is correct in the way that it nicely states "[it] can be like (...)". Because what we are trying to suggest here is Not like that, but there are plenty of threads suggesting exactly what you're pointing out as globally and long term bad suggestions.

No. Despite your intentions (that I largely agree with actually), the effect is definitely "candy for dinner".

trading sucks!
-no easy to use auction house - the forums don't cut it, masses of trade only games
-learning prices or you get unfair trade
-players who trade more then play get wealthier - unethical traders even more so.
-new players are overwhelmed
I'm sure there is many more examples if I spent any time thinking, but those are enough.

Answer? remove trading. FTW

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VenatorPoE wrote:

Your third paragraph contains another terrible notion, you directly imply you [know] and we do not [nor ever will]. That's just offensive to all the open minded people participating in this discussion.

This is subjective your right. But, what I DO know, is that GGG designed the game with FFA loot for a reason, it was not arbitrary, these were careful decisions. Great care was taken to preserve a real economy and the ability for us to trade. I read all the early design manifestos before I bought a diamond supporter - thus I think the lead designers of this game would agree with my "terrible notions" at least I got that going for me.

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VenatorPoE wrote:

Your previous post, just like this one, is positive about SFL in a very wrong way which I do not agree with.

I am trying to show another perspective here, I am GLAD you don't agree with it.

CHAPEL PERILOUS : Winner of the 2014 Sundance Film Festival <---
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Ten_of_Swords wrote:


Unfortunately, because the game is multi-player all it takes is one persons preference to shift the group to one side as we all saw the total dominance of the PA loot setting in public games. I think when you get the SFL it will be more popular then the other leagues actually, it will be boring as hell but it's still not worth the effort of going back to the other leagues because they will then ONLY be populated with people vested in trade and RMT'ing etc.


Even if GGG implemented the exact SFL that I would want to play...I would still continue to play standard like I do now along with that league. Why would I do that? Because a SFL would be a different experience. Its something that I think that I would enjoy, but if I want to do a specific build with specific uniques without waiting I would have to do that in a trading league, unless I want to grind for a long long time hoping that I get the right unique drops to make it. IMO, the other leagues will be fine and a SFL would have a mediocre population, maybe even a low one depending on how GGG implements it.


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Answer? remove trading. FTW


My issue here isn't actually with trading itself, just the game thats built around it. I don't mind trading, I just don't like that its so much better than playing the game. I don't like that the drops and crafting are in such a bad state.
Standard Forever
Updated poll results.

P.
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MonstaMunch wrote:
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So far we have:
83% in favour of testing a dedicated SFL
7% not in favour of testing a dedicated SFL
10% maybe in favour, depending on the details

Except the minor detail that of those people, 100% chose to click on a thread titled "love poe? Tired of trading and rmt?" so they could participate in it. I'd be more concerned that you didn't manage to get 100% votes in favor given the way it was worded.

lurn2survey


+1
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Alea wrote:
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1296 respondents
67% in favour of testing a dedicated SFL


on my eyes this does means we got like 1000 ppl asking actively for a SFL league
im pretty agree with that like i posted in your topic, SFL league with highter droprate is awesome :)

especially because the base design of the game (currencies==>craft) make it a very very good SFL oriented; but how about allowing currencies exchanges only ?


We have almost 1,300 votes, of which 67% have voted in favour of testing a dedicated, optional SFL. We have about 15 % on the fence, and 19% against.

This poll isn't perfect, but it's better than having nothing and basing everything on pure speculation.

Petrov.
Last edited by mrpetrov#7089 on Apr 27, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
I disagree... nothing would have been better.

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