White Sockets -OR- Corrupted Mod : Why?

Any reason?

The outcomes have different probabilities that you ( we ) don't know, just from what your logic is flawed ( or it's irrelevant if you prefer ).

Also I've never seen a Vaal Orb changing only sockets/only link/only mods ( unless there is no socket ), so that's one common potential outcome => your logic is flawed here again.

You can get unique properties that will make some items much much much more valuable and it's the only way to do so, it just simply is very risky ( which is intended ) : you can't value the outcomes equally.

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Fruz wrote:

The outcomes have different probabilities that you ( we ) don't know, just from what your logic is flawed ( or it's irrelevant if you prefer ).

Also I've never seen a Vaal Orb changing only sockets/only link/only mods ( unless there is no socket ), so that's one common potential outcome => your logic is flawed here again.

You can get unique properties that will make some items much much much more valuable and it's the only way to do so, it just simply is very risky ( which is intended ) : you can't value the outcomes equally.

I have been following vaal corrupting results since first hour of expansion release. Believe me i know what i am talking about, you can either get:

1. A new mod
2. white socket(s)
3. Reroll the item (links etc..)
4. nothing

You can't get new links + new mod
You can't get new links + white socket(s)
Yo can't get NEW MOD + WHITE SOCKET(S).

I am the one who made the 2 threads you can see in my sign, 55 pages of corrupt results, i know what i am talking about and GGG can confirm.


So @GGG what is the logic behind
You can get all bad results at once.
VS you can't get white sockets + implicit new mod?
Thanks for an answer/

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VaultzInex wrote:

I have been following vaal corrupting results since first hour of expansion release. Believe me i know what i am talking about, you can either get:

1. A new mod
2. white socket(s)
3. Reroll the item (links etc..)
4. nothing

I know that ... almost everyone does know this, it doesn't change what I said still.

It's not that you get "all bad result", it's that it completely rerolls the item ( as you know ), what you say would be relevant if it was also possible to reroll only sockets/links/colors unpredictably, and it's not he case.

Vaal Orbs' purpose is not to be used on top-end items, it's to be mainly used on low levels uniques / okay items.
And that's good, because that makes a low level unique sink, that gives them a purpose.

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Fruz wrote:

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VaultzInex wrote:

I have been following vaal corrupting results since first hour of expansion release. Believe me i know what i am talking about, you can either get:

1. A new mod
2. white socket(s)
3. Reroll the item (links etc..)
4. nothing

I know that ... almost everyone does know this, it doesn't change what I said still.

It's not that you get "all bad result", it's that it completely rerolls the item ( as you know ), what you say would be relevant if it was also possible to reroll only sockets/links/colors unpredictably, and it's not he case.

Vaal Orbs' purpose is not to be used on top-end items, it's to be mainly used on low levels uniques / okay items.
And that's good, because that makes a low level unique sink, that gives them a purpose.

Makes sense.
I will up this whenever i change my opinion(If i ever do that).

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Fruz wrote:

And that's good, because that makes a low level unique sink, that gives them a purpose.

Except we already had a sink for useless uniques, a trash can.

As for purpose... maybe if sockets are exempt from 'no tampering' rule, as it is only corrupting accessories is seeing wide usage.

Got a story of my own about vaal orbs:
Since new content got released I've took on a lofty and noble goal to corrupt two prismatic eclipses to all white sockets. The reason isn't that important but let's say I find the idea of a screen-wide cyclone really entertaining, no matter how crappy the damage is.
Since then I've probably rolled twenty of them or so, the unfortunate thing is you have to prepare each and every one, roll max quality, get three slots, roll three links, and make them all green to have IAS bonus for every slot that fails. It's not terribly expensive but it adds up.

After rolling about 10 I abandoned my previous goal of three whites and settled for 2 per sword. After rolling 20 I'm seriously considering to abandon that too and call it quits with one per sword. Because that's all I got, and one of those two swords I even forgot to prepare.
After rolling twenty eclipses, the only interesting thing I got besides those two with a white socket was one with a level 10 melee splash as implicit (which I vendored because I couldn't imagine a situation where I'd want to use it)

Conclusion? Vaal orbs are in the game for idiots like me to try stupid stuff.

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raics wrote:

After rolling twenty eclipses, the only interesting thing I got besides those two with a white socket was one with a level 10 melee splash as implicit (which I vendored because I couldn't imagine a situation where I'd want to use it)

I got one like that too :>

This is true that freezing links/quality may be the thing that is too much in corruption ( to me ), I mean :
- sockets colors ? understandable since it might make a white one.
- mods ? understandable since it can reroll them
- implicit value ? understandable since it can reroll it

but for quality and links .... idk, maybe it wasn't risky enough otherwise =/.

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raics wrote:

Except we already had a sink for useless uniques, a trash can.

That's not a sink.
The market is flooded by low level uniques that everyone has, now there will be less of them, and they coudl be useful.

Vaal orbs IMO are a flawed concept. You wouldn't use one on a good unique because 99/100 its a bad result and using one on a rubbish unique means you wouldn't use it even if you did get a good result.

Here is one thing i want to KNow. Why when it makes an implicit new mod, does the old one get removed. If the item already has an implicit mod, it should keep that, and if the vaal orb gives it another then that should be ADDED to the current one, NOT replace.


Also, there should be an orb that can undo corruption, no matter how rare or valuable it be, there should be an undo mechanism, though be it rare thus very costly. This would give players options, and not be afraid to use vaal orbs on certain items.

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MasterAxe wrote:

Here is one thing i want to KNow. Why when it makes an implicit new mod, does the old one get removed. If the item already has an implicit mod, it should keep that, and if the vaal orb gives it another then that should be ADDED to the current one, NOT replace.


Also, there should be an orb that can undo corruption, no matter how rare or valuable it be, there should be an undo mechanism, though be it rare thus very costly. This would give players options, and not be afraid to use vaal orbs on certain items.

1) I agree, i am going to write a suggestion right now(i will wait some time in case you cant to make it)
2) Wait for next expnasion.