The Thief - CoC Bow Shadow [1.1.2]

Hi there! Im just trying to create this build but i cant get 6L volls + 6L quill rain.

I have now collected 5L volls chest and 5L Quill rain + thiefs ring. 3 most important items for this build?

Can i make this build with 5L volls and 5L quill rain? if yes, whats the links ?

Thanks ! <3

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DisableTV wrote:

So to end this: i think he got it and he now knows that bretty much everythink goes, and he now knows what you think is best and what i think is best, now lest not treat him like a small boy with no brain, i think the rest he can do on his own if not lest wait for a replay from him in the post and then we can always at that time help him further if needed :) No need to bump this thread even more for no reason at all :)

I was actually speaking to you, was wondering if you've tried that one. No need to get so defensive, jeez. You prefer something else, that's fine, I was just curious.

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juseq wrote:

Hi there! Im just trying to create this build but i cant get 6L volls + 6L quill rain.

I have now collected 5L volls chest and 5L Quill rain + thiefs ring. 3 most important items for this build?

Can i make this build with 5L volls and 5L quill rain? if yes, whats the links ?

Thanks ! <3

Not to bump this thread more then it already is :)

Every information you need is in the guide :) i would recommend you to look under walkthrough, you should find the information that you need right there :)

Got anymore questions you are always welcome to just look at all the pages in the thread, many peolpe are making new spins on the build and some poeple recommends other gem setup then mine, but what i would chose and use is all in the guide :) If you still need further assistance plz don't hesitate to contact me :)

Thanks for the respons m8 :)

Keep Happy

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Bars wrote:

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DisableTV wrote:

So to end this: i think he got it and he now knows that bretty much everythink goes, and he now knows what you think is best and what i think is best, now lest not treat him like a small boy with no brain, i think the rest he can do on his own if not lest wait for a replay from him in the post and then we can always at that time help him further if needed :) No need to bump this thread even more for no reason at all :)

I was actually speaking to you, was wondering if you've tried that one. No need to get so defensive, jeez. You prefer something else, that's fine, I was just curious.

Sorry bars i am not being defensive, i am just telling it how it is and what i would use and chose :)

And yes i have tryet everythink out that makes sense for me as single target setup. I ALLWAYS! do that or how should i ever know what i would prefer :)

Thanks again for all the great comments :)

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I've been on an experimentation kick lately myself.

putting finishing touches on my own strain of this build, but this is where the fun in POE lies these days for a guy like me. Taking an established build like this (bow coc, not the random iterations people are coining as their own) , deconstructing it down to the base levels, and then taking a "ground-up" approach to improving it.

As fun as this build is (read: lots), there's a huge hole in it. It doesn't scale. It's what i call a 3 mode build. You have an entry level @5L rain/volls, where you can pull it off to some level of success . You have a second tier, at the 6L level, where the damage goes to it's peak, but you're still filling in survivability holes, then the final stage, where you get your survivability sorted while carrying 3-5 non-negotiable slots.

With quill rain builds like the thief and wurpo's, you're pigeonholed into some very limited gear choices, and most of those are in the slots where scaling damage and survivability are available. Rings and amulet provide attack speed, accuracy, spell damage, leech possibilities, along with life, resistances, ES, and numerous other beneficial qualities that you simply can't find on glove/belt/boot, especially in leagues where the legacy gear isn't available and there's no real clear "best in slot".

The heart of the problem I've found is the combination of the ring slot and voll's. People can scream "but is worth!" all day long, and if you wanna keep the build under 80 exalts, they are, but I'm talking about building something with a foundation to be further improved on. I really like the overall design of this archetype, but as with any game so firmly in it's infancy, I feel like we're taking a very 2 dimensional approach to the whole thing.

If you guys wanna pop into my stream and throw ideas around, you're more than welcome, or just hit me in game @omniderpz


p.s. I'm typing with some broken fingers, suck it up and use your imagination if you find a typo.

@Disable: OK dude, I may not agree with things in your build, but you're the most calm and positive guy I've seen in a long time, having in mind how much of an asshole I've been in your thread :D

Cheers :)

@Helikz: all CoC builds have limited scaling because they don't use weapon damage. They can never compete with a weapon-based build with a really good weapon. Still, their damage is more than enough. AS for the Quill Rain / Thief's Torment thing, well, yes, I also don't like it. IMO, the most optimized version would be to use a high-crit Harbinger bow or Windripper, run Clarity + Blood Magic + Reduced Mana and use two normal rings. I'm repeating myself, but I assume you haven't read the previous pages of the thread.

Over all there is over 10000000 of builds in PoE and in the end it don't really matter if this or that works better then that or this, for me it's about having fun and a lot of it :D To many years i havne'd hat fun, so now it's all about the fun, and this kind of build those it for me :D no matter of there is somethink better out there or whatever :) This is for me about the fun :)

The build is not really that expensive ofc for a full new player who just came in to the game and has nothing this is not a build to go for, but like a player who has around 20 exa for building a character, this build can done with under that amount :) ofc my items is worth a lot more, but it's also stated in the guide that it's expensive :)

example my friend the other day (NonStopEu) told me he really wanted to try out my build because it looked really fun, but he is really bad at trading and finding gear so i helped him out, maket a fine character for him for only 17 exalted.

5L quill rain
5L voll's
thiefs ring
Maligaro's gloves
And the rest was some fine okay rare items with life, ev and ress

Uset just under 17 exalted :)

he is running 2 auras grace and purity of elements and it is running great :)

Ofc not as strong as my build, but still going 72+ rare maps and this is a guy who never done over 70 blue maps :)

But what i loved about doing this for him was the smile on his face when he told me that this is some of the best fun he ever had in this game and for me that is everythink :D 100000 can come in and tell me this suks or have other spin on it or whatever, but just that 1 guy like him will do that it's all worth it for me to put in the time for making this guide :)

Everybody keep a smile on your lips and be happy :)

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Bars wrote:

@Disable: OK dude, I may not agree with things in your build, but you're the most calm and positive guy I've seen in a long time, having in mind how much of an asshole I've been in your thread :D

Cheers :)

@Helikz: all CoC builds have limited scaling because they don't use weapon damage. They can never compete with a weapon-based build with a really good weapon. Still, their damage is more than enough. AS for the Quill Rain / Thief's Torment thing, well, yes, I also don't like it. IMO, the most optimized version would be to use a high-crit Harbinger bow or Windripper, run Clarity + Blood Magic + Reduced Mana and use two normal rings. I'm repeating myself, but I assume you haven't read the previous pages of the thread.

Why should i not be calm Mr Bars :) It's just a game, and i love to play this game :) Don't think i think you are an asshole because i don't, ofc we don't agree on anythink but whatever man thats life :) For the life i have had i always have to be calm so yes after many years it's just something i am :) Trust me a game or some forums posts arent what can get me pissed or un calm :P

Bars don't take me wrong, you are a great person, like my nemesis in this post if you can call it that, and a nemesis is never a bad think to have in your life or whatever you are doing :P

Everybody thanks for all the respons even if it's bad or good :)

Keep Happy

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Bars wrote:

@Disable: OK dude, I may not agree with things in your build, but you're the most calm and positive guy I've seen in a long time, having in mind how much of an asshole I've been in your thread :D

Cheers :)

@Helikz: all CoC builds have limited scaling because they don't use weapon damage. They can never compete with a weapon-based build with a really good weapon. Still, their damage is more than enough. AS for the Quill Rain / Thief's Torment thing, well, yes, I also don't like it. IMO, the most optimized version would be to use a high-crit Harbinger bow or Windripper, run Clarity + Blood Magic + Reduced Mana and use two normal rings. I'm repeating myself, but I assume you haven't read the previous pages of the thread.

I've read a lot of it, I tend to skim though.

also, there are a lot of ways to scale spell damage, even though physical damage weapon scaling is off the charts at this point, the issue I see isn't a lack of options, it seems to be a lack of motivation to innovate outside of the "proven" combinations because of how powerful they are.

I dunno, I just have this feeling like there's something I'm missing (or overthinking) that will elevate this build to another level altogether.

Look out for my The Thief v2 build and guide coming soon. just need my windripper and then i can begin :) Got everythink els, sadly the bow is hard to get atm on SC.

But i think this will be somethink even Mr Bars will like :D