[1.1.1b] [Incinerate EB-MoM-Witch ] [Beginner Friendly] [March 28th Update][+Bonus Build]

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DexDeus wrote:

Can someone with good knowledge of how the dps calculation is done for this skill explain to me just how you are getting to 2500 dps on tooltip. It doesnt make sence to me

Lets suppose you manage as much as 7 casts per second with incinerate which would require like 70% increased cast speed. And lets suppose you have a wand with 100% spell damage a shield with 50% and you take 32% witch spell off the tree. I personally am going more defensive so i am not going down and getting the increased projectile damage nodes in ranger. But that gear is sick enough to make up for this fact.

So if you do the calculations on incinerate (full damage), added chaos (30% effectiveness) and added lightning (30% effectiveness) all at level 20 the average damage comes at

60 + 85 + 37 = 182

your spell damage is 182%. With GMP you also get like 30% increased projectile damaage so 212

182*3.12 = 567

Now you do 7 casts a second so this is 567 * 7 = 3969

But GMP gives 50% less damage so now you're at ~ 2000 tooltip dps.

This is about the maximum i can envisage to be perfectly honest anyone getting.

But this is fricking hard to get gear like this in a new league. OK so some might be playing in hc or sc and using LMP and achieving 2500 tooltip with stats as above. But this is with great gear. If playing invasion the realistic proposition is going to be like this:

I personally envisage a scenario as such:

a 70% spell damage wand and 50% on a shield would be good and hard to get for resists purposes. So you're still gonna have a hard time.

so lets call is 150% increased damage modifiers and with say a 15% cast speed wand and 10% from GMP (and anyone in their right mind uses grace on invasion to be honest so i dont like the idea of haste).

With a build suitable for invasion you dont want to be running around with 1000 armour which is about what you can expect in this build...

Also you're like level 85 before you can get any cast speed at least(i use a different version to this giving more life as i feel is neccessary in invasion)

In addition you'll probably use tabula rasa for a long time as getting 6L in invasion isnt going to be a walk in the park.

So getting cast speed on rings and amulets is going to take a back seat for resists and life.

So 25% seems plausible. This yields 5.2 casts per second.

So you're looking at:

182 * 5.2 * 2.5 * 0.5 = 1183

And for some time you're likely to be on due to resistances issues:

182 * 4.8 * 1.7 * 0.5 = 742

So my question is would this be viable with 3 times less dps than you're suggesting, not take static blows.

If you assume 3 of your projectiles hit the enemy then its about 2200 dps. Of course this becomes 4400 after a second or so so it may well work but im totally not expecting as much as you say...

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alkoxide wrote:

if I have a bit over 5ex, what should I buy to improve my dps? im trying to get a 5L to get LMP, but idk if i should save up for a 6L to get added lightning dmg and shock. im lvl 65 and only using a 4L :/ my wave clear is really slow and doing piety runs is a pain. i guess im wondering how important shock is for this build

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RXXQ wrote:

Current Equips at lvl 66:

I found the Dream Fragments.

Currently running auras: Haste, Clarity and Purity of Elements.
All I have of worth is that ring, a Cloak of Defiance and 1 Exalted Orb to buy things with.

Not sure what to buy or where to go or what to do right now to improve my build. Only 900 DPS as of now, I guess that's ok for my low level? :P

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alkoxide wrote:

with the gear that i linked above, i get 1436.9 tooltip dps, 2000ar exactly, 3007hp, and maxed out res, besides chaos which sits at -22%. every single piece of gear, sans-5L, cost 7chaos or less. and only the wand cost 7chaos. my mana regen is only 125ish tho. i cant walk around with AA on, but in battle i can sustain lvl16 AA just fine.

if you look around for deals you can massively increase your dps.

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DexDeus wrote:

Can someone with good knowledge of how the dps calculation is done for this skill explain to me just how you are getting to 2500 dps on tooltip. It doesnt make sence to me

Lets suppose you manage as much as 7 casts per second with incinerate which would require like 70% increased cast speed. And lets suppose you have a wand with 100% spell damage a shield with 50% and you take 32% witch spell off the tree. I personally am going more defensive so i am not going down and getting the increased projectile damage nodes in ranger. But that gear is sick enough to make up for this fact.

So if you do the calculations on incinerate (full damage), added chaos (30% effectiveness) and added lightning (30% effectiveness) all at level 20 the average damage comes at

60 + 85 + 37 = 182

your spell damage is 182%. With GMP you also get like 30% increased projectile damaage so 212

182*3.12 = 567

Now you do 7 casts a second so this is 567 * 7 = 3969

But GMP gives 50% less damage so now you're at ~ 2000 tooltip dps.

This is about the maximum i can envisage to be perfectly honest anyone getting.

But this is fricking hard to get gear like this in a new league. OK so some might be playing in hc or sc and using LMP and achieving 2500 tooltip with stats as above. But this is with great gear. If playing invasion the realistic proposition is going to be like this:

I personally envisage a scenario as such:

a 70% spell damage wand and 50% on a shield would be good and hard to get for resists purposes. So you're still gonna have a hard time.

so lets call is 150% increased damage modifiers and with say a 15% cast speed wand and 10% from GMP (and anyone in their right mind uses grace on invasion to be honest so i dont like the idea of haste).

With a build suitable for invasion you dont want to be running around with 1000 armour which is about what you can expect in this build...

Also you're like level 85 before you can get any cast speed at least(i use a different version to this giving more life as i feel is neccessary in invasion)

In addition you'll probably use tabula rasa for a long time as getting 6L in invasion isnt going to be a walk in the park.

So getting cast speed on rings and amulets is going to take a back seat for resists and life.

So 25% seems plausible. This yields 5.2 casts per second.

So you're looking at:

182 * 5.2 * 2.5 * 0.5 = 1183

And for some time you're likely to be on due to resistances issues:

182 * 4.8 * 1.7 * 0.5 = 742

So my question is would this be viable with 3 times less dps than you're suggesting, not take static blows.

If you assume 3 of your projectiles hit the enemy then its about 2200 dps. Of course this becomes 4400 after a second or so so it may well work but im totally not expecting as much as you say...

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Maxwells wrote:

I see alot of you guys going Added Chaos dmg over Added Lightning dmg on a 5 link. How so? Isn't the additional shock stacks worth more than the added chaos dmg? I'm currently running

But I'm leveling a Added Chaos dmg gem on the side, for when in a distant future I get my hands on a 6L.

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GornoDD wrote:

Im happy to see many people helping out each other here. I simply cant answer every question. I highly encourage you to always check the Wiki first and try to find a answer first. I for example always check the wiki and search the forums/reddit for answers first. If there is absolutely no clue I open a new post.