[LostCauze's 10 Aura Summoner Build] Ultimate Low Life Aura Support Summoner [1.1.0]

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lostcauze wrote:

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Trojans86 wrote:

BMs are garbage. About 1/100th of the dmg but maybe the dmg from a high lvl demon map will still work (not sure how their dmg scales). I have plenty of survivability (can tank 77 Shring Piety). My issue is DPS. I need a build that can clear a 77/78 map in under 15 minutes and flame sentinels don't appear to do so even with all dmg nodes/auras and a 6l. The only other answer I can think of is to take a spectre from a higher level map but I haven't seen any flame sentinels that are consistently in a map. Not sure why theyre not in 71 temple.

Guess I need to just make a new character and hope someone else figures something out a way to get good dps.

If you are doing a 77 map with 66 BMs, they will be horrible. They were that way before 1.1.0, you have to get higher level BMs for high maps to be effective. See how they do in a 66 map, if they do fine, then in high level maps, with high BMs, they will do okay as well.

I still need to test this, just busy trying to not died in Invasion right now.

Not sure what you are talking about but my lv 62 BMs pre 1.1 could kill anything in seconds in lvl 78 maps. You mustve been doing it wrong. And since I was obviously doing it right, a 62 bm took a long time to kill lvl 70 mobs with the patch. Im looking for an OP build not a 20 minute low level map build. Im thinking desecrate may be the answer but im tired of trying things without endgame viability.

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Trojans86 wrote:

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lostcauze wrote:

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Trojans86 wrote:

BMs are garbage. About 1/100th of the dmg but maybe the dmg from a high lvl demon map will still work (not sure how their dmg scales). I have plenty of survivability (can tank 77 Shring Piety). My issue is DPS. I need a build that can clear a 77/78 map in under 15 minutes and flame sentinels don't appear to do so even with all dmg nodes/auras and a 6l. The only other answer I can think of is to take a spectre from a higher level map but I haven't seen any flame sentinels that are consistently in a map. Not sure why theyre not in 71 temple.

Guess I need to just make a new character and hope someone else figures something out a way to get good dps.

If you are doing a 77 map with 66 BMs, they will be horrible. They were that way before 1.1.0, you have to get higher level BMs for high maps to be effective. See how they do in a 66 map, if they do fine, then in high level maps, with high BMs, they will do okay as well.

I still need to test this, just busy trying to not died in Invasion right now.

Not sure what you are talking about but my lv 62 BMs pre 1.1 could kill anything in seconds in lvl 78 maps. You mustve been doing it wrong. And since I was obviously doing it right, a 62 bm took a long time to kill lvl 70 mobs with the patch. Im looking for an OP build not a 20 minute low level map build. Im thinking desecrate may be the answer but im tired of trying things without endgame viability.

Highly doubt your 62s could do much in a 78 map, especially in a party, a VOD of that would be nice. You can see how I snapshot and what I snapshot with. I don't know why you would get 62 BMs, when you get 66s from Lunaris. As mentioned in the 1.1.0 section, I will be running Undying Evangelists to help the group not get randomly one shot.

There is a reason the title of this build has the word "support" in it. If you want some op damage build, go find a crit spectral throw or crit split arrow build, or something. You have not watched my past VODs on my stream to see just how op this build is, or have heard others, like GreatOne, talk about it either. When you can carry a 6 man party in 78 maps, and have people not want to do bosses without you, then you can call it an op build.

Desecrate might be the answer, along with snapshotting and damage nodes. Trying things is how we discover builds like mine, I have put hours and hours into respecing and trying new things in-game to become as powerful as possible.

You should stream more. I'm really interested =D

Oh yeah and what about artic armour?

I wanted to ask, how is it when you're 60-70 and don't have Shav, Prism Guardian, or Alpha's Howl?

Definitely won't get to the 10 aura state without them.

I'm also wondering about AA, as it would greatly increase your survivability. Would help great against the insane Invasion bosses to.

Another question I have is are you better off going CI or Low Life with Solaris Lorica?

Sorry I have not checked the thread in a little bit. Windows decided to become corrupted after an update, so I have been reformatting and installing everything.

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Snailzzz wrote:

You should stream more. I'm really interested =D

Oh yeah and what about artic armour?

I would, but between school and work I have been unable to play as much as I would like, and stream.

Arctic Armour would be amazing to have. With the mana cost, it would do little with the mana you have left. You would only be able to sustain level 1 Arctic Armour with the movement cost of 28.5 mana per second. Yes, you could Lightning Warp all around, but I don't want to have to rely on that when I meet something that I have to out maneuver.

PoE Wiki also mentions, "Mana Cost Multipliers, such as 150% from Increased Duration or reduction from Reduced Mana, do not affect Mana Drained or Mana Drained while moving." So, you will not be able to reduce the movement cost as well.

It would be completely up to you to run. It would be very nice to run in Invasion and I may have to go back and revisit the situation once I get there. If you have achieved it in some manner with this build, please feel free to share, we are all learning and building here.

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Whoaness wrote:

I wanted to ask, how is it when you're 60-70 and don't have Shav, Prism Guardian, or Alpha's Howl?

Definitely won't get to the 10 aura state without them.

When you are that high of levels, you will run 4-5 auras, depending on what you can handle. At that point, I was CI and did Power Siphon with Conduit and Blood Rage. As you mentioned, the 10 auras are not possible, Shavs is the keystone of the 5+ auras.

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Celidion wrote:

I'm also wondering about AA, as it would greatly increase your survivability. Would help great against the insane Invasion bosses to.

Another question I have is are you better off going CI or Low Life with Solaris Lorica?

AA was answered above, take a look, it would be something to mess around with for sure.

Now that is a tough question. I would do as follows:

1. If you have enough ES (above 5k, or whatever you are comfortable with), then do the low life with Solaris Lorica.
2. If you are feeling squishy, with lower ES, then stick to CI until you get more ES.

In that order is what I would do, Invasion is much more difficult than Nemesis. Try to feel out the build, get some experience on what the game play is like with the build, and then choose. To be clear, while getting used to the build, go CI. The 10 auras are very tempting I know, but you need to survive first.

I'm having trouble enough getting ES gear for my softcore scrub. It feels like CI won't be coming too soon when I hit 70.

Also, I guess you would be running Dicipline, 3 purities, and vitality as the first 5 auras?

I have respecced and made your exact build and then moved to AA with IR. I've probably spent over 5 ex respeccing this build and in my experience a summoner build with AA and IR is definitely stronger. The key thing for arctic armor is to get the level as high as possible. To do that you really need a wand or dagger with +2 cold gems and +1 to all gems, then put in a lvl 3 empower to get a lvl 26 arctic armor. You also need to buff up your armor because that increases its effectiveness. With Grace and Determination I was able to get over 70% damage reduction from armor. With maxing out your buff increase passive skills you can run some high level maps and take zero damage 98% of the time. I remember being in a big group and facetanking 77 shrine Piety for everyone and only really taking meaningful dmg on the ice form (i would run and hide). No one else in the group could facetank her at all. One big issue with this build is the mana regen requirements. You can use an empower with your clarity to really jack up your mana regen but the added mana reserve requirement will kill a few other auras. Otherwise you need mana regen in almost everything you wear to get that 320+ mana regen (I guess you could teleport around but I found that really annoying).

Sadly i respecced this character and made it a spectral thrower. I like to solo and incorporate some MF and clear speeds were just too slow. I never tried Undying Evangelists or Desecrate but that could be the answer. Good luck.

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Trojans86 wrote:

I have respecced and made your exact build and then moved to AA with IR. I've probably spent over 5 ex respeccing this build and in my experience a summoner build with AA and IR is definitely stronger. The key thing for arctic armor is to get the level as high as possible. To do that you really need a wand or dagger with +2 cold gems and +1 to all gems, then put in a lvl 3 empower to get a lvl 26 arctic armor. You also need to buff up your armor because that increases its effectiveness. With Grace and Determination I was able to get over 70% damage reduction from armor. With maxing out your buff increase passive skills you can run some high level maps and take zero damage 98% of the time. I remember being in a big group and facetanking 77 shrine Piety for everyone and only really taking meaningful dmg on the ice form (i would run and hide). No one else in the group could facetank her at all. One big issue with this build is the mana regen requirements. You can use an empower with your clarity to really jack up your mana regen but the added mana reserve requirement will kill a few other auras. Otherwise you need mana regen in almost everything you wear to get that 320+ mana regen (I guess you could teleport around but I found that really annoying).

Sadly i respecced this character and made it a spectral thrower. I like to solo and incorporate some MF and clear speeds were just too slow. I never tried Undying Evangelists or Desecrate but that could be the answer. Good luck.

You have diminishing returns on armour, the higher level you go, and the harder you get hit, the less your armour actually mitigates. This is why you see a lot of ranged, and even melee based builds going Evasion over Armour. Check out these:

1. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/11707
2. http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Armour

Sorry to hear you couldn't make this build work out for you, the idea of this build is to be a walking Aura Bot, as people will say. You bring a lot to the table when in groups. Evangelists would be the way to go in Invasion, and during the Atziri fight, due to the bubbles they provide.

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Whoaness wrote:

I'm having trouble enough getting ES gear for my softcore scrub. It feels like CI won't be coming too soon when I hit 70.

Also, I guess you would be running Dicipline, 3 purities, and vitality as the first 5 auras?

I am currently level 61 in Invasion and I am still hybrid based. I have 2k life and 2.1k ES (with very little es gear), once I am able to find es gear I will switch to CI.

The auras that you run will depend on your resistances and what you feel is important. I currently run Discipline, Purity of Fire/Lightning, and Vitality. Once I get an Alpha's Howl I will run Haste, for the movement speed and party buff.

Hope this helps, as always, comments and questions are more than welcome.

Watching WillyWonka and Mors attempt through Atziri, makes me a bit worried about zombies being too squishy. Willy was running this similar build but with quad curse and spectres. All he could do really was keep safe and maintain bubbles.

I was really trying for this build for Atziri viability, but I probably need to party with folks.