SHARP's CI Immortal / Simply OP for all maps (37k+ DPS)+vids / Fully updated for 1.1SotV

Great! Nice to have it demonstrated in actual game. Will look forward to seeing your update!

HE IS THE BEST GUYS, SIMPLY THE BEST..!!! THX MATE

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serlev wrote:

I finished Ghost Reaver test..
done with:
9153 Es (1830 Es/sec max)

enjoy..

You should test if you still get 1 shot by 74 vaal or 74/78 Dom with 9k es lol!

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You should test if you still get 1 shot by 74 vaal or 74/78 Dom with 9k es lol!

Dominus '74: I got down him 8-9 times and at all fights my tactic was face tanking. I didnt try to dodge his chain lightning or Hands of God attacks. I used all versions ,part 1+2+3, but never died. Did I get any crit dmg? I have no idea !.. I maybe so lucky or strong enough even for crits..

Dominus '78: At my 1st attempt I had died with 1 shot Hand of God while face tanking as usual..
Then I did this map 2 more times by always dodging his Hand of God attack but face tanking for the rest..

Vaal '74 : Since we know approx. damage values of his Smash attack it is easy to calculate rough Life - Energy Shield value we need for face tanking.

From PoEWiki Smash has
12k total dmg (6000 Fire + 6000 Phy.) and if it crits (%130 crit multiplier for mobs)
27.6k total dmg (13.8 Fire + 13.8 Phy)..

Assume
*** our hero has 75% Fire resist..
*** with 36000 armor (with dbl flask say 102.000 armor) : up to 36k/12=3k ; 102/12=8.5k dmg reduction possibility
*** we have no map modifier effecting Boss damage (even not any ground fire, etc..)

_____________________________________ CRIT case ____________________

Fire dmg taken... 13800*0.25 = 3450 dmg
Phy dmg taken (no flask)... 13800-[3000 * (13800 /(13800+3000))] = 11335 dmg
Phy dmg taken(dbl flask)... 13800-[8500 * (13800 /(13800+8500))] = 8540 dmg

result: she can survive if she has
14785 Es w/out flask or
11990 Es with dbl flask :)

These are extremely high values which normally none has..

So.. how is it possible to face tank Vaal when he crits.. or in other words:
Is it ever possible to face tank Vaal with a reasonable high Es ?

Answer is soon in this forum topic :)

enjoy...

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Is it ever possible to face tank Vaal with a reasonable high Es ?

Answer is soon in this forum topic :)

Here is the answer:

1- It is quite possible by using Enfeeble curse on Vaal :

20 lvl Enfeeble decreases
** his damage by 34% (6000*0.66=3960) and
** his crit multiplier by 39% (130% * 0.61= ~80%)
so his crit dmg will be .... 3960 * 1.80 =
7128 (down from 13800 for each part of Fire and Phy.)
In that case pls insert 7128 wherever u see 13800 in above equations
Result will be....

she can survive if she has
6800 Es w/out flask or
5035 Es with dbl flask

which are very normal Es values for CI builds.. Geee.. how easy is to face tank Vaal now :)

2- More info to get further down the necessary Es value for face tanking:

** If u use Purity of Fire 20 lvl gem, your new 82% fire resist will decrease Fire dmg taken to 1283 (down from 1782) 7128 * (1-0.82)
** If u use Enduring Cry gem and have 1 enduring charge on, it decreases the phy. dmg taken further 4%.

So result with Purity of fire + Enduring cry is:

she can survive if she has
6315 Es w/out flask or
4454 Es with dbl flask

Now it seems face tanking Vaal is not a serious issue any more :)


enjoy.. the math lover


EDIT: the math above would be true if we didnt have any nerf for curses on Bosses :(
as of 1.0.0 patch notes it is said that curses are only 40% effective on map Bosses..
Sorry for misleading but I will do a new calculation soon..

I think there may be a problem in the above calculation. The curse effectiveness against bosses is 30%, so enfeeble is dramatically not as effective as you calculated above. :)

Meh, still too dangerous ;-)

I'm thinking of an alternative build based on Shadow.

Crit dagger CI aegis:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAecEsQV9BbUOSBB7ES8RlhLhFdcWvxpVGtsbrR4aHoEk_SgqKLUppSo4Kwosvy9vMFQ26D3iPs9HBkjuS41MYE4qUUdT31ZjVupW-ljbW69e-l9qYSFko2qTbmlwUnBWcLt4roTZhO-GrofbiEKIa42_j_qQG5VmmVeZmpoTm4Odo5_Louqmf6c0rK-xs7TFtUi2Qbb3t9O95r46vqfAD8BRwQDBxcLsw23DhtJN037VANXt14bXy9kT2xrb1Nvn3Q3jhOdU55HrY-wY7UHuDu9O8-r1S_lj_Kv8xf8c_5M=

The idea is to sacrifice some defense, and get a lot more offense.

ES will be lower at 112% instead of 152% (Since 6k ES is still dangerous vs 1-shot bosses, so this is not much of an issue)

Eva 184%, with grace that should give about 12-15k armor. Add in granite and jade flasks, filled when crit, I can maintain high armor probably 50%+ of the time if not more.

Block will be 62%, spell block 45%, which is about 5% lower than Part 1 of your build.

Once my Scion reach lvl 92 (currently 75% exp), I will begin transform my shadow into this and see how it goes.

At the beginning I will just use Soul Taker, but once I get a nice dagger it should be solid.

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I think there may be a problem in the above calculation. The curse effectiveness against bosses is 30%, so enfeeble is dramatically not as effective as you calculated above. :)

If possible can u pls give us an official link about this info?
I mean not the discussions among players but something from GGG..

EDIT: I found it.. It is at patch notes for 1.0.0 and not 30% but 40% effective for map bosses..

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Balance Changes - Monsters:

Piety the Empyrean in the Shrine Map and the Shadow of the Vaal in the Maze Map now have significantly higher item quantity and rarity.
Monster skill costs and mana pools now increase proportional to their level in a more natural way.
The descriptions of properties on magic and rare monsters have been made more concise so that they're easier to read in combat.
The Unwavering monster accuracy prefix has been renamed to Precise.
Map Bosses now have 60% reduced curse effect (up from 50%).
Act bosses now have 70% reduced curse effect (up from 40%).
Rogue Exiles now have 50% reduced curse effect (up from 0%).

I should do the math again.. In this situation the result will tell most probably "dont even try to face tank Vaal and dodge his Smash" :)

By the way, who needs curses on trashes ? They are alrdy easily killable !!...

trash mobs are our friends.

the more of them we tank, the more other party members are envious of our tanking ability.

also the more of them, the more ES they generate for us, making us even more tanky ;-)

Energy Shield vs Vaal.. New calculation under the fact of Curse nerf

Assumptions are same:

*** our hero has 75% Fire resist..
*** with 36000 armor (with dbl flask say 102.000 armor) : up to 36k/12=3k ; 102/12=8.5k dmg reduction possibility
*** we have no map modifier effecting Boss damage (even not any ground fire, etc..)

We are ONLY discussing for the face to face tanking of Vaal.. not to defeat him (else , by dodging his smash, Vaal is a piece of cake)
The case , of course will get the situation of a critted Smash hit which is not blocked..

If the given damage for Vaal at PoEWiki is true for Vaal in 74 map too.. here is the math for necessary Es value for face tanking..

from Enfeeble: 34% * 0.4 = 13.6% dmg reduction // 39% * 0.4 = 15.6% less crit multiplier
from 1 Enduring Charge: 4% less phy. damage taken
from dbl Flask : Up to 8500 dmg reduction possibility
from Purity of Fire : 82% fire resistance

here we go:

normal hit dmg after enfeeble: 6000 * (1-0.136) = 5184 dmg
critted hit dmg value : 5184 * [ 130%*0.846 ] = 5184*2.10 = 10886 dmg


Fire Part: 10886 * 0.18 = 1960 fire dmg taken..........

Phy. Part: dmg taken after Enduring 10886 * 0.96 = 10450

with dbl flask... 10450-[8500*(10450/18950)] = 5765 phy dmg taken

TOTAL dmg taken: 5765 + 1960 = 7725 dmg

Result:

she can survive if she has
> 7725 Es with dbl flask

This Es value is not extremely high but nevertheless a bit difficult to achieve..
Any one having that much Es can check if the dmg value (6k+6k) is correct or not given by Wiki..
All others Pls dodge the Smash :)

enjoy..