1.3 [Newbie Friendly] GROUNDSLAMMER BUILD

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Halinn wrote:

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emjay2d wrote:

The spreadsheet trying to explain when its better for Life on Hit or Life Leech makes little to no sense to me.

Can we make this alittle simpler? Are we trying to say Life Leech is good when ur aoeing shit, and Life on Hit for single target? I really dont understand what the spreadsheat is supposed to convey.

Average physical damage * Life Leech gem percent. If that number is higher than life on hit gem for you, switch to life leech. That's really all there is to it.

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emjay2d wrote:

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Halinn wrote:

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emjay2d wrote:

The spreadsheet trying to explain when its better for Life on Hit or Life Leech makes little to no sense to me.

Can we make this alittle simpler? Are we trying to say Life Leech is good when ur aoeing shit, and Life on Hit for single target? I really dont understand what the spreadsheat is supposed to convey.

Average physical damage * Life Leech gem percent. If that number is higher than life on hit gem for you, switch to life leech. That's really all there is to it.

Thank you, good sir! But what do you mean by Average Physical Damage? The DPS under default attack? The Physical damage of our weapon? Sorry for being so stupid, and thanks for helping! :D

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Halinn wrote:

http://imgur.com/ID8gevm
This is my heavy strike. That last line, "Main hand does 430-898 physical damage", is the important one. Average of that is 664. Suppose I had 3% life leech, I'd get 20 life per hit. Since my life on hit is 24, it's better to stay with LoH for me.

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Mustis wrote:

I am lvl62 in act2 my dps with heavy strike is 2450. SHhit dies so slow now :( Survival is ok, but dat dmg :( Anyone around this lvl whats your HS dps ?

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Dvc wrote:

Act 3 merciless has been REALLY tough for me with this build. I feel like all of my gear is really bad too and it feels impossible to find an upgrade. First two difficulties went smoothly and I had tons of fun playing... but uhh :D Just fustrating to die over and over again.

You can check my gear from this topic if you have some ideas how to upgrade them?
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/86860

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Pesusieni wrote:

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Halinn wrote:

http://imgur.com/ID8gevm
This is my heavy strike. That last line, "Main hand does 430-898 physical damage", is the important one. Average of that is 664. Suppose I had 3% life leech, I'd get 20 life per hit. Since my life on hit is 24, it's better to stay with LoH for me.

From wiki: "Unlike the life leech mod that is found on gear, the life leech this gem provided works with any damage type, not just physical."

So to my understanding all the damage types count, not just the physical.. so instead if 20 life, you would get 27 life per hit with with your weapon.

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Pesusieni wrote:

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Halinn wrote:

http://imgur.com/ID8gevm
This is my heavy strike. That last line, "Main hand does 430-898 physical damage", is the important one. Average of that is 664. Suppose I had 3% life leech, I'd get 20 life per hit. Since my life on hit is 24, it's better to stay with LoH for me.

From wiki: "Unlike the life leech mod that is found on gear, the life leech this gem provided works with any damage type, not just physical."

So to my understanding all the damage types count, not just the physical.. so instead if 20 life, you would get 27 life per hit with with your weapon.

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Killzu wrote:

This may not be the best place for this but im going to ask anyways.

Why does everyone suggest taking 40hp from the bandit quest for the first reward? As far as I can tell the math shows that an 8% node picked up by an extra skill point will quickly overtake the 40hp.

Lets assume a full build like the one on the first page that gives 151% increased maximum life. 40hp ends up at ~60hp. At 1350hp an 8% node is giving 108. My level 38 mara has more than 1350hp already.

Not sure why you wouldnt take the skill point?

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Tyrindor wrote:

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Killzu wrote:

This may not be the best place for this but im going to ask anyways.

Why does everyone suggest taking 40hp from the bandit quest for the first reward? As far as I can tell the math shows that an 8% node picked up by an extra skill point will quickly overtake the 40hp.

Lets assume a full build like the one on the first page that gives 151% increased maximum life. 40hp ends up at ~60hp. At 1350hp an 8% node is giving 108. My level 38 mara has more than 1350hp already.

Not sure why you wouldnt take the skill point?

151% increased HP with 40 HP is ~102HP unless my math is failing me. There is no node that valuable that isn't already taken in the build. An additional point is not going to allow you to go clear across the skill tree and pick up another 8% health node.

You would need roughly 1300HP base HP for the 8% to be better. I think you are trying to take your total health (after passives) and then factoring in the 8%.

I'm not a pro, nor very good at math, but people like Kripparian and other hardcore players have theorycrafted this stuff to no ends. If they say 40HP is best in the long run, it is. Most builds will benefit more from HP than the skill point (definitely this build).