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nightblade157 wrote:

The guide says this item makes or breaks the build.. can some1 explain why??

The build has no block nodes so spell block will only be 26%. Is it coz of the 5% max res? Or is it meant to be used with necromantic aegis (which I think i'm gonna skip)

Wudn't prism guardian be better overall choice to run more auras?

well if you are not planing on geting necro aegis i think that there are better choices for shields, but i wouldn't say prism guardian as it requires you to build yourself to use it,i feel pretty confident with 4.2k life after reservations for the content i genearaly do, but for tuff high level maps (even lower maps with tuff bosses and bad mods if i plan on killing them) iswap for my archon kite shield, trading wrath and anger for 1.5 k life.

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RicardoMaceil wrote:

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nightblade157 wrote:

The guide says this item makes or breaks the build.. can some1 explain why??

The build has no block nodes so spell block will only be 26%. Is it coz of the 5% max res? Or is it meant to be used with necromantic aegis (which I think i'm gonna skip)

Wudn't prism guardian be better overall choice to run more auras?

well if you are not planing on geting necro aegis i think that there are better choices for shields, but i wouldn't say prism guardian as it requires you to build yourself to use it,i feel pretty confident with 4.2k life after reservations for the content i genearaly do, but for tuff high level maps (even lower maps with tuff bosses and bad mods if i plan on killing them) iswap for my archon kite shield, trading wrath and anger for 1.5 k life.

It is intended for necromatic aegis. It's intended to keep your minions alive. That's the whole point of it. Minions need those resists and defenses way up so they live because this whole build is designed around using unrighteous fire pets only. If you lose minions and have to go resummon them that's a huge huge huge problem.

This shield makes your minions incredibly tanky.

You're providing lots of attack defense aura to your pets, but this shield gives them the edge in surviving spell damage, which often rips pets a new one.

updated the initial post

how much block chance do minions have? Or is it just coz of the +max resists, coz that can be achieved by running 2x purity auras in prism guardian.

not sure you fully tested this since i have as a low life Shavs summoner with over 1mil dps WITH OUT COD (without EE shock stacks or with curses on also) (tested with a melee friend with 670k tooltip dps i burn things 3 times faster then he kills things)
it DOES not work UNLESS YOU ARE HEALING ACTUAL HP Read the item closely (it may seem like it does when you are already high MF) but it States DURING flask effect (all flask that regen anything STOP when they reach full HP/Mana and with full HP/mana it will not activate but will use charges)

with low life Shavs it will not work tested with tool tip stats and watching light radius get bigger when i was missing Life but when i was not missing life NOTHING was given to me from the flask
i also have 339 MF without the flask
found some really nice stuff spamming 78 maps made about 60 exalts so far worth of drops in the last 2 weeks

also 9 auras 6k ES 400 regen 200 mana regen and 80/80/80 resists with only ONE piece of gear that has resist on it

and no Necromantic Aegis......

with all 4 Purity im sitting at with +49 from Prism at like 190+ so that must mean my minions AND most def my zombies are capped next to me also have all Buff+ and all but one cluster of Aura nodes at the very bottom.

skilltree


MF gear

still at 80% with the loss of 40 Resistances

First of all;

Yes you do need to have the potion in effect to benefit from the bonus, it's pretty obvious from the description, no need to PRESS AND HOLD SHIFT TOO MUCH.

Secondly;

Spellblock minions > all purity auras and unnecessary resist buffs

Zombies

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As of Version 0.11.1, a level 20 zombie starts with 32% fire and lightning resistance, 64% cold resistance and 0% chaos resistance regardless of the difficulty.[1]

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20 Purity /w 27% + 54% from passives = 41%
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Saffell's Frame 18% + 5% Max + 26-31% Spell Block (depending on roll)
=
91/123/91/0 resists for Zombies (without Minion and Totem resist Support gem)


Spectres supposedly start off on 0/0/0/0 as a worst case scenario;
(or similar to the base monster type)

41% Purity of Elements
+
22/21/21 Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance
+
18% Saffell's Frame (+ 26-31% Spellblock)
=
81/80/80/0 Resist

Again, it is an absolute waste to run all purity auras, your minions already cap out with Necromantic Aegis on 80% AND they receive 26-31% Spellblock resulting in far superior tankiness vs Spelldamage.

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tehosiris wrote:

First of all;

Yes you do need to have the potion in effect to benefit from the bonus, it's pretty obvious from the description, no need to PRESS AND HOLD SHIFT TOO MUCH.

Secondly;

Spellblock minions > all purity auras and unnecessary resist buffs

Zombies

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As of Version 0.11.1, a level 20 zombie starts with 32% fire and lightning resistance, 64% cold resistance and 0% chaos resistance regardless of the difficulty.[1]

+
20 Purity /w 27% + 54% from passives = 41%
+
Saffell's Frame 18% + 5% Max + 26-31% Spell Block (depending on roll)
=
91/123/91/0 resists for Zombies (without Minion and Totem resist Support gem)


Spectres supposedly start off on 0/0/0/0 as a worst case scenario;
(or similar to the base monster type)

41% Purity of Elements
+
22/21/21 Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance
+
18% Saffell's Frame (+ 26-31% Spellblock)
=
81/80/80/0 Resist

Again, it is an absolute waste to run all purity auras, your minions already cap out with Necromantic Aegis on 80% AND they receive 26-31% Spellblock resulting in far superior tankiness vs Spelldamage.

I get the point. Nice guide btw :) Had a low life shavs sporker in CB and havent played a mf build since then. The game feels dull without having a shitload of mf ;)

I have one question.

For non-hardcore leagues, would it not be better to link raise zombie to cast on death instead of trap+remote mine. This way u get much more dmg on them and also frees up a gem slot.

You need something to activate the cast on death unless you plan on killing yourself in normal difficulty to summon zombies.

Sunblast belt/trap automatically detonates giving you time to socket in cast on death. This also adds 60%+ damage.

My setup for burnings is "Specter, Trap, Minion Life, Area of Effect, Item Rarity, and then Cast on Death" I use concentrated effect for my single target dps specter.

The cast on death socket thing is like a bug/exploit though. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets fixed in the next big patch.

oh sorry forgot to mention that i use blood rage to kill myself :D

Well the zombie snapshotting is a much bigger exploit than cast on death, because CoD is useless for all other skills as i see it (except portal maybe)

But if u use it for spectre because then u wud lose xp (since we get spectres in merciless)

Also, for the OP how about wielding both montegruls and 1 midnight bargain while summoning zombies for even more dps bonus? Or wont they get the NA bonus if i dont equip shield while summoning them?

Another question:
How the hell do i get spectres with the friggin zombies blowing everything up??