The Frozen Dagger (ST/CoC - Self found, noob friendly) [Gameplay Videos]

Hi, how good would this be as a first character in the new league? I'm guessing you'll post the new passive tree as soon as it goes up. Most importantly, would it be possible to do this with a wand and barrage instead of spec throw?
i think we don't really need to change big things. we lost 2 crit multiplier notes so i put them in spell damage (spell damage from 12% to 16%)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABH4EsQX5CPQOSA5cD8QQdBEvEZYV8Ba_GYoajxrbHaohwCP2JDwk_SaVJ6ksnC0fLYMvbzGIOlg7fESrRX5GcUlRSn1MYEyzUDBTNVVLVa5WLVb6WkhabV3yXyph4mKsY0NnoG0ZbWxte2-ecFJwVnC7cNV5A311f8aDCYcZh3aH24hCjDaPppAbk_yVZpcGmZqaE5u1naOdqqKjpzSnXKx_rs-zDrVItve4yrvjwFHBxcHzwzrEospK037VANVP1p3ZE9te29Ted-GI44TnVOtj647r5O4O7_DyHfPq9tr7Cfyr_MX-uv-T


what do you say to this, juggla ?
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n00boxular wrote:
Hi, how good would this be as a first character in the new league? I'm guessing you'll post the new passive tree as soon as it goes up. Most importantly, would it be possible to do this with a wand and barrage instead of spec throw?


I don't see why my build wouldn't work with wands. You just dump the points invested into Nightstalker and pick up Global Crit instead. Although, there is a Barrage/Wand build that seems to get a lot of love HERE.




Here is a preliminary build with the new tree for level 83 (98 points). Not changed much. Traded the witch spell nodes for the shadow spell/ele nodes. Grabbed the Flask nodes and the new and improved Mana/HP node in the witch tree. Dropped Mana Geyser and went back with the northern route to the 3rd Aura cluster while grabbing the mana/hp nodes there as well. We end up with more HP and Mana, We trade a little Crit Multi for more base dmg. I don't see a huge change in the way the build will play out. Maybe even do a little more dmg since some of our spells don't have a high crit chance and will do more dps with more base dmg.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
so it would look like this for me ?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABH4EsQX5CPQOSA5cD8QQdBEvEZYV8Ba_GYoajxrbHaoj9iQ8JP0mlSepLJwtHy2DL286WDt8RKtFfkZxSVFKfUxgTLNQMFM1VUtVrlYtVvpaSFptXfJfKmHiYqxjQ2egbRltbG17b55wUnBWcLtw1XkDfXV_xoMJhxmHdofbiEKMNo-mkBuT_JVmlwaZmpoTm7Wdo52qoqOnNKdcrH-uz7Q4tUi297jKu-PAUcBUwcXB88M6xKLKStN-1QDVT9ad2RPbXtvU3nfhiOOE5RnnVOtj647r5O4O7_DyHfPq9tr7Cfv1_Kv8xf66

or is there something to improve ?


i gotta be honest , i thought about changing my shadow character completely ,

i have been a bit frustrated with the 1 shot elemental reflect business ,,

BUT saying that this build is super fun !!!

im hoping we can solve that problem and make his build something we can move into the 90's with
With the changes to the tree Elemental Equilibrium is far more easy to reach now and i decided to give that a go. With lightning damage from my dagger, Ice Spear and Fireball i have a feeling it kills quite a bit quicker. The extra energy shield helps too, as i changed the build to be CI.
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Banstyle wrote:
With the changes to the tree Elemental Equilibrium is far more easy to reach now and i decided to give that a go. With lightning damage from my dagger, Ice Spear and Fireball i have a feeling it kills quite a bit quicker. The extra energy shield helps too, as i changed the build to be CI.


Both of these options are viable. I just am not a fan of CI since I play mostly self found. But EE extremely powerful. It just causes gear choices to be extremely limited. Say I find some AMAZING gloves but they have cold dmg on them ... can't use them running EE.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
Well I have officially made it to maps again with nothing but the gear I found along the way. No Voll's yet so crit chance is lackluster, not quite breaking 50%.

Current gear
Spoiler
Ignore the Cyclone. I was just messing around with it.


Current Passive Tree - Level 69

Current Gem Setup
ST>CoC>LMP>Ice Spear
Double Strike>CoC>LMP>Freezing Pules
Grace>Haste>Red. Mana (Havne't seen a Disc or Purity of Ele yet :( )
CwDT>Skele>End Cry>Culling
BM>Clarity
Crit Weakness/Temp Chains

Approx. Stats (With Flasks up full time)
~2200 HP
~350 ES
~50-60 All Res
85 Cold Res
~50% Crit Chance
~50% Eva
~60% Dmg Reduction
~82% Chance to hit
~2 aps

Will update main post over the next few days sometime.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
Last edited by Juggla1570#0315 on Mar 11, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
Hey Juggla, just wanted to say thx for providing the time and effort on this build, which is pretty awesome. I am having fun blasting away through most of these mobs. I was very fortunate to get a voll's 6linked and colour setup this early into the league,so that goal is out of the way.

At the moment, i still have issues with elm reflect, i drop like a fly if i accidentally spam my attacks vs a rare with those mods. I find thorn's tough to deal with as well.

Also i do get the occasional low on mana issue, but my next few node upgrades will go to mana regen or more hp/es, this way i wont be as squishy as i move onto some of the higher maps.

For the 6L volls setup, i got 3g,2b,1r

So with the 1r slot i have tried using in place of the red socket was knockback, which i find very effective and hilarious at times, but i usually do group runs, so at times it can piss off some of the melee players, lol.

Also i tried using lgoh, but i don't really find it necessary atm, since everything dies so fast and it isn't effective enough vs elm ref and wont keep me alive.

Another good one i find is fire penetration, this pretty much melts down everything, so fast.

I still need to max my resistance as well, haven't been able to find the proper gear with specific stats, i am looking for. So yah, i still need upgrades for pretty much the rest of my gear. Also been working on crafting some of those surgeon's flask.

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