Beating Nemesis without rares or uniques

So it took you 15 minutes to trade three chaos worth of currency into chaos? Let's say that another way: it took you as long to trade the currency into chaos as it took to gather it?

... And yet people refuse to admit that a non-RMT based AH would be a good thing.

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Sayyid wrote:

So it took you 15 minutes to trade three chaos worth of currency into chaos? Let's say that another way: it took you as long to trade the currency into chaos as it took to gather it?

... And yet people refuse to admit that a non-RMT based AH would be a good thing.

How do you consistently make 12 chaos an hour by farming stuff? Pls teach.

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Tian_Yihao wrote:

"I joined a leveling group to make it go by faster. As I said before I will solo all the hard content. I will only party for grinding groups or for content I already did myself "

In merciless u should never get to party, not even in cruel imo, since it is a huge carry for you. Who knows if that storm herald would have blasted you into another dimension if you soloed....
Even simple lvl farming can be truely dangerous. I ripped a lvl 52 witch at cruel docks, where 2 rare came at me, and did 2,2k hp in 1 hit each(they hit at the same time). 1 had phys aura, and the other crit aura, first mob crit stunned me and the other just slapped me to death :)

I also dont like that you just trade any gear... You can basically just buy 16 dual res rings with 75 life and high all res or 35+ single res(etc etc).. I can finish dominus merci with a lvl 45-50 char if i just go nuts on poe.xyz, maybe even lower depending on build...I killed merciless piety + dominus(lvl 68 area) yesterday with a lvl 60 char solo self clear. I'd like to see u go up to that challenge after this :)

You also talk about rares having the handy 4 extra mods, most normal ppl that play solo without being dependant on trading only have rares with 3 good stats. Getting top tier blues are almost the same...

The challenge itself is not REALLY that hard anyway, there are tons of res nodes that are easy to get. Several 6 all res, and a few 12 all res. All you need to do is overlvl and your good, since ALL of your gear has high life anyway. And overlvling is exactly what you do as well :)

I guess my post seems more negative than it is meant to be, but it is just some of these ppl in total AAAAAH that makes me wonder about the average skill level amongst players :)

Anyway, GL with cruel dominus and merciless :) That is where it starts to get interesting, since you most likely will be at 30-50 res.

When I first saw the storm herald I allowed him to damage me several times to get a feel for how much he did, not very much damage since I have between 70-75 lightning depending on what gear i am wearing at the time.

I am not an exceptional player at Poe. I've said several times in log that wear I am not is very easy. My resists are capped, I blow up monsters very fast, if I do find a dangerous most all it takes is an enfeeble curse. I think this will become difficult around merciless vaal.

What I am doing is highly possible. I've already ran the numbers and I have many different options for how to max my resists. My life will be good because I'm priotizing life-rolls and the difference in life between a rare and magic is very small (a rare can have more life because its more likely to get get strength, all resist etc in addition to a life roll), armor will be my big weakness. All armor roll on gear are prefixes and life is also a prefix.
By getting high life I get low armor. I am also NOT going into the marauder aura to pick up armor. If anything kills me it will be a strong physical hit but I think molten shell, decoy totem, enfeeble and the future flasks I will craft will be a large enough bag of tricks to help me if a rare mob from hell comes around.

Dps will also be fine since I am a spell-caster and all I need is some easily acquired support gems and a 5-link chest which I will afford. If I was NOT a spell caster I would instead invest currency into buying blue items rolled with +% damage and attack speed. It would be more expensive than my caster but highly doable.

The way I see it there are 2 types of people on this forum. Experienced players such as yourself who know that this challenge is highly doable and scrubs/newbs who dont understand the game (remember theres a difference between a scrub and a newb).

For players such as yourself I hope you will get entertained and maybe we can have some nice discussions about the game.
For newbs (those without knowledge) I hope to teach themself
For scrubs (those who refuse to learn and complain instead) I'm going expose them for the cry-babys that they are. Maybe they will re-evalute themself and develop, at minamum I hope they will stop spamming our forums with QQ.

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NotRegret wrote:

For scrubs (those who refuse to learn and complain instead) I'm going expose them for the cry-babys that they are. Maybe they will re-evalute themself and develop, at minamum I hope they will stop spamming our forums with QQ.

I doubt they'll do that one their own, but at least we can link this thread and go </thread>.

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While grinding in felshire I met 2 new nemesis mods: corrupted blood and storm herald. These guys could be pretty dangerous if spawned on certain enemies (say corrupting blood on an extra fast viper or storm herald on an enemy that curses conductivity). One of our party members nearly died from corrupting blood and had to al+f4. I'll need to be extra carful around these guys in merciless. Maybe use decoy totems to reposition them or play more of a hit n run style. I'll have the movment speed boots.

Just wanted to pipe in. Dont depend on on hit and run saving your life from Corrupting Blood in Merciless. It can be done if you're extremely careful but the odd time will come up when you lose control of the situation. You seem like a smart guy but just in case you didn't know, roll a Staunching suffix on your flasks to dispel the bleed. You can let the Corrupting Blood stack up and then dispel it to get burst damage in.

Also Storm Herald is a pain in the ass. Even with 77 Lightning Res, you can get shocked and things will go down hill very quickly from there as the stacks build.

Anyway this has been highly entertaining so keep it up! Good luck in your quest!

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Xavderion wrote:

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Sayyid wrote:

So it took you 15 minutes to trade three chaos worth of currency into chaos? Let's say that another way: it took you as long to trade the currency into chaos as it took to gather it?

... And yet people refuse to admit that a non-RMT based AH would be a good thing.

How do you consistently make 12 chaos an hour by farming stuff? Pls teach.

Grind stuff. Identify stuff. Understand which stuff can be traded because even if not useful in current form, it's at least got solid mods for crafting. Altoholic vender-trash the rest. Play averages and remember that for every couple hours where you only pull a dozen fuses and nothing special, there will probably be another hour where you got lucky and a two ex unique or whatnot dropped.

Consistently? Eh, nothing is "consistent" in a game as RNG-heavy as POE. But on average? Yeah, that's probably about right.

And either way, the fact remains that it's pathetic that it took OP 15 minutes to convert his seven silver coins into three gold coins.

Hey man, nice to see you're still alive and well. I really had no idea what to give for the boots considering I don't usually trade in augs. If you need anymore lmk, for the boots I mean, so you aren't taking them for free. I have plenty of transmutes/augs/alts now.

I've been IDing magics but so far I haven't gotten anything half decent. But since I'm doing maps, I'm sure I'll eventually find something nice. Surprising how hard it is to find good magics.

Edit: Also those nemesis mods you mentioned are based off of the monster's main hand damage, so watch out for heavy hitters like golems.

About the 15 minute wait to exchange currency.

The time I waited to exchange the currency was almost instant when I lowballed myself (3 fuse to a chaos). I was desperate so I went with that.

The 15 minute wait was me trying to get a fair trade on chaos, which no one wants to do.
Chaos is in high demand. Even though 1 alch+1 scour is functionally identical to a chaos its very difficult to find someone who wants to trade their chaos for 1 alch+1scour.

When you are low class in poe you get bullied in trade.

If a high level player has 10 alchs and people won't take it as payment or want to low ball him than he will just use the alchs on his maps or maybe craft some gear.

A low level player does not have such an option. He can't do maps and alching low item level gear is pretty bad compared to alching high level gear. Because of this its very easy for the high level player to bully the low into overpaying.


On my high level character I do the same thing. I rip noobs off on the currency trades and they have no choice. I do not chaos my maps. I sell chaos to noobs at a rate of 5 alch/scour:2 chaos. After that I use the scour/alch to reroll my maps. This is an advantage of being a high level player.

Many low level players see chaos and alch as nothing more than gold coins and they will not craft with them. These players tend to drive up orb prices to artificial levels: making 1 chaos=2.5 alch/scour I am in that position right now (I couldn't even wear a good rare if I got one).


Whenever you want to trade up on currencies you either
a) let yourself be ripped off
b) be patient and wait

I didn't have option b) and a lot of noobs don't either so I went with a)
If I wasn't in a hurry to make the trade I would just scan trade chat every one in awhile and get what I wanted after a few hours or days.

An interesting and entertaining thread, OP!

I like the way you write and describe your "adventures" in the cruel world of Wraeclast :P

Hopefully you'll manage it past Cruel Dominus! Looking forward to your Merciless adventures.

Still alive, are we?

And for the future:
Be careful.