ggg needs to take steps to make spells more approachable

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

so they balanced the passives on items that almost nobody has , shocker .. it doesn't work all that well.

This. Screw Shavs, give us other options for Pain Attunement.

"Gameplay Discussion
General (non-feedback) gameplay discussion."

I'll just leave this here.

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Looks like GGG's current answer for the lacking spell damage is by buffing Added Cold/Lightning.

Seems pretty huge though, instantly makes it better than Empower (except for EK of course). lvl 14 added cold 24–36 -> 46-69

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Zamary wrote:

"Gameplay Discussion
General (non-feedback) gameplay discussion."

I'll just leave this here.

This.

I don't understand why some feedback is considered "feedback", and others are considered "gameplay discussion" or "general discussion".

There is no consistency in GGG forum moderation, especially when it comes to probating.

spell damage is by buffing Added Cold/Lightning?

Spectral throw + GMP + CoC + Life leech + any spell + Added Cold/Lightning
or with Quill Rain: Barrage + GMP + ...
if need PCoC you can use Voll's Protector.
100500 cast in sec. no need mana.

i think self caster have now 2big problem..
1) mob resist. if disable this some build be OP (la ranger, EA ranger)
2) "need" mana leech and life leech link

now self caster "need": life leech + mana leech + penetration + skill + 2gem (example gmp/lmp + only 1 "+damage" gem). and this only 6L.

mele need example: skill + mele splash + 4 "+damage gem" (multistrike + mele damage + add fire + full life damage)

my cold crit witch before deleting have 800-900dps (Freezing Pulse+gmp) in 70+lvl with not bad gear (107% crit for spell shield, 68% spell damage and 82% crit chance for spell dagger, 5L Voll's Protector... etc)

my testing CI flicker strike shadow in 42lvl!! have aoe 700dps and 2k+ single target dps.. only 4L!!
with bad gear, 35lvl dagger only.

if call to mind about resist? my 42lvl shadow better 70+lvl witch.. its crazy! )

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how gameplay self caster now? only "one button" gameplay
slow mob pack - Freezing Pulse (example. only main atack)
faster mob pack - Freezing Pulse
rare - Freezing Pulse
boss - Freezing Pulse

you can use any other spell? no. you need skill + life leech + mana leech + penetration (minimal). you cant add dps (or other gem) with 4L in helm/Boots/Gloves. you cant add even gmp/lmp! (fireball+lmp for cold resist mob)

Imagine the situation if you do not need "life leech + mana leech + penetration"
slow mob pack - Freezing Pulse (example. only main atack)
faster mob pack - Cold snap(elemental proliferation, add cold damage, increased duration), flameblast
slow rare cold resist - Fireball(chance to ignite, increase burning damage...)
boss - Cold snap, lighting trap, etc...

more interesting gameplay?

sorry for my bad english. use google translite(

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Robert_Paulson wrote:

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Zamary wrote:

"Gameplay Discussion
General (non-feedback) gameplay discussion."

I'll just leave this here.

This.

I don't understand why some feedback is considered "feedback", and others are considered "gameplay discussion" or "general discussion".

There is no consistency in GGG forum moderation, especially when it comes to probating.

because i didnt frame the thread as feedback, i didnt say hey ggg your spell casting mechanics are bad.

i said hey ggg spell casting mechanics are bad , lets talk about it and find out how bad it is and maybe ggg will pick up on it because feedback is where threads go to die not to live so SHUT IT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


there is a difference

if i wanted to provide feedback to ggg , id post on reddit , or email them or pm them , pretty much ANYTHING other than post on feedback

testing fire caster after 1.0.4..
firestorm + life leech + chance to ignite + elemental proliferation (primary aoe)
fireball + lmp + life leech + (1 lvl fire gem wand) (facetanking some speed mob)
flameblast + add cold + add light (some boss or blue ranger pack)
cold snap + add cold + elemental proliferation + cold penetration (freeze hard mob)
33lvl (act3 normal - act1 cruel)

not bad leveling) like.. now play only solo

flamblast is really disapointing
i wanted spells to be competitive with attack based skills
this skill seems to be discharge 2.0 (espeical as summoner or in groups)

the changes to added lightning/cold dmg are good since it makes more! like added fire (even tough added fire can only be used on physical dmg)
but is at no point a great help for caster it just adds another "semi mandatory" gem to your list of links (where we need more than attackbased builds anyway)

a response from ggg would be realy helpfull
maybe they just buffed these added dmg gems to improve the situation a bit for "casters" and are still working on spells/witch area in general