literally anyone with aegis max block and max spell block can run those maps with eyes closed currency buying noob. That's the whole point of that kinds of builds, low dps but actual impossible to kill tank. l2p idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MO_sX-AOQ
look at that video clueless noob, what was that you said? the guys gear doesn't cost a third of yours. RIP currency?
I will repeat yet again, doing ridiculously easy map affixes means literally nothing in your gear. n o t h i n g. It doesn't at all confirm any of your points. You are yet to reply anything at my stabs on major flaws in your defenses, as well as skill tree which i keep saying over and over to no reply.
Once you watch my video, you'll see just how much stronger my character is than his :].
(I kill her in about 4-5 seconds on the first stage, and then each piety does in 6 seconds after that. I don't die. The guy in the video is incomparable to how strong my character actually is).
ALSO, -max resist is much scarier than GMP, from my personal experience. He's not taking a lot of single-hit damage from piety's attacks because he has like 77-80% resists. Meanwhile, piety on -max resist maps does double the damage of piety on non -max resist maps (atleast her lightning).
I will give the guy props for fighting double piety. It's no easy feat. But A. This isn't physical reflect and B. This isn't -max resists.
a) He is using #1 shield, which alone costs 10 times more than most people will ever accumulate. Yet he has 0 block chance from skill tree, 0 shield defenses from the tree and 0 spell block chance, making wearing the shield VOID. Dual wielders get higher block chance just from picking up the usual dps nodes ALONE. shocking is it not? (he sure likes his shock stacks i bet)
SO I guess 600 ES, 60% spell damage which is now converted into 60% physical damage doesn't count. Without block nodes this shield is just a huge waste of slot which adds absolutely NOTHING to the character. Really? Are you even listening to yourself
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His "armour" is that high because he has used 80-90% increased armour during effect flask + granite flask before he took the screen shot. In reality, without lieing yet again, his armour will be around 4-5k max with auras. (that's really just stupidly basic maths look at his gear and tell me how much armour or evasion do you see there)
Grace at lvl 20 = 2016 ev. 26% aura effects = 2540
110% evasion from tree = 5334 EV which is converted into armor.
So yeah, its not 5k max. Dont be bad at maths
He can run determination on life and boost that amount by 50% but doesn't choose to for unknown reason. Maybe he doesn't wanna recast aura between maps. Point is it's easy and possible to have 8k armor with this build. Have you ever played CI? How much armor have you had? Proof?
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c) His resists are irrelevant since phys mobs will be raping him the moment they flicker/reach to melee. But even then, as i said before, his chaos res alone is pathetic, a 20dmg a sec chaos map takes his shields to 50% within seconds. It doesn't matter if he had 100% all res, if his chaos res is null, his elem survival stats are null.
say he runs a 30 chaos damage map. Say his chaos res is absolutely pathetic at -60%. He lose 48 ES per second. 50% of his ES is 3000. To lose half of his ES it takes 62.5 second, more than 1 minute. Is that your definition of "within seconds"?
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d) Vaal pact, or more commonly known as #yolopact is incredibly risky node to use, and only ever really used much by standard league or dom characters. You have yourself said, that any lol-pro player, will first think defense and only then offense. Than you go ahead and rape your own point by saying hey good job you took an offensive ability. Being able to heal yourself, only if your projectiles are hitting, is a bad idea. ask any actually above average player and they will tell you than ANY DAY they would choose passive regen over vaal pact.
pefect example to how yolo this is, is ATHENE, dieing on nemesis with rediculous geared for the lvl char to a dot.
I'm an above average player with gear worth more than 500 ex and I choose Vaal pact over regen. What'd you got?
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e) his status ailments does not exist, he has to use a 10 chaos low lvl unique loosing major dps just to feel slightly safer for himself, when really he could spend 10 alterations and have a flask that does the same job and have a ring that would add another 20% more dps to his build.
First off, price for dream fragment in Standard is at least 3.5 ex in Standard. WHere the hell do you get the 10 chaos price tag? Do you even play the game? Secondly, we went over this already. No flask can replace Dream frag for an ES build, that's why IT'S SELLING FOR 3.5 EX AND NOT 10 CHAOS.
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as i said before, all those things point to the following facts, this build only works on certain end game maps, a few of them unless you'r planning to dump your currency pool remaking maps non stop, the two major maps being close to impossible to finish in this build. Again, him saying that he can solo piety and dominus is just a pure lie. he cannot, you can spend the time and currency and make that build and see for yourself.
You've seen his stats. You've watched his videos. Too jealous to accept the fact, perhaps?
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literally anyone with aegis max block and max spell block can run those maps with eyes closed currency buying noob. That's the whole point of that kinds of builds, low dps but actual impossible to kill tank. l2p idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MO_sX-AOQ
look at that video clueless noob, what was that you said? the guys gear doesn't cost a third of yours. RIP currency?
I will repeat yet again, doing ridiculously easy map affixes means literally nothing in your gear. n o t h i n g. It doesn't at all confirm any of your points. You are yet to reply anything at my stabs on major flaws in your defenses, as well as skill tree which i keep saying over and over to no reply.
Once you watch my video, you'll see just how much stronger my character is than his :].
(I kill her in about 4-5 seconds on the first stage, and then each piety does in 6 seconds after that. I don't die. The guy in the video is incomparable to how strong my character actually is).
ALSO, -max resist is much scarier than GMP, from my personal experience. He's not taking a lot of single-hit damage from piety's attacks because he has like 77-80% resists. Meanwhile, piety on -max resist maps does double the damage of piety on non -max resist maps (atleast her lightning).
I will give the guy props for fighting double piety. It's no easy feat. But A. This isn't physical reflect and B. This isn't -max resists.
Just wait until you see the video.
you'r literally brain dead or something? look at the video i linked, freeze it on 0:05. what do we see? oh right
-elemental weakness
-4 projectiles
-2 bosses
literally anyone with aegis max block and max spell block can run those maps with eyes closed currency buying noob. That's the whole point of that kinds of builds, low dps but actual impossible to kill tank. l2p idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MO_sX-AOQ
look at that video clueless noob, what was that you said? the guys gear doesn't cost a third of yours. RIP currency?
I will repeat yet again, doing ridiculously easy map affixes means literally nothing in your gear. n o t h i n g. It doesn't at all confirm any of your points. You are yet to reply anything at my stabs on major flaws in your defenses, as well as skill tree which i keep saying over and over to no reply.
Once you watch my video, you'll see just how much stronger my character is than his :].
(I kill her in about 4-5 seconds on the first stage, and then each piety does in 6 seconds after that. I don't die. The guy in the video is incomparable to how strong my character actually is).
ALSO, -max resist is much scarier than GMP, from my personal experience. He's not taking a lot of single-hit damage from piety's attacks because he has like 77-80% resists. Meanwhile, piety on -max resist maps does double the damage of piety on non -max resist maps (atleast her lightning).
I will give the guy props for fighting double piety. It's no easy feat. But A. This isn't physical reflect and B. This isn't -max resists.
Just wait until you see the video.
you'r literally brain dead or something? look at the video i linked, freeze it on 0:05. what do we see? oh right
-elemental weakness
-4 projectiles
-2 bosses
Elemental weakness is negated by purity. -Max resists is not possible to counter.
4 projectiles is hard. I admit it's something that I would not want to face unless I had to because it's a risk that nobody who runs 77+ maps would willingly take unless the rest of the map's affixes were completely godly.
you'r literally brain dead or something? look at the video i linked, freeze it on 0:05. what do we see? oh right
-elemental weakness
-4 projectiles
-2 bosses
Forgot to mention the fact it took him 3 minute 10 second to kill the bosses in first form and 4 minute in second forms. Of course when someone has built his character in the most extreme defensive way he can tank any kind of boss. But his damage is complete shit compared to a crit dagger build such as this. Not everyone want their toon to be a tank. But hey, you know what's good for the discussion? I'd like to see your character, see what she can do. Please.
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SO I guess 600 ES, 60% spell damage which is now converted into 60% physical damage doesn't count. Without block nodes this shield is just a huge waste of slot which adds absolutely NOTHING to the character. Really? Are you even listening to yourself
yeah, i don't listen to myself, i don't speak to myself i'm not some freak as you two. But what i DO know, is this guy has incredibly expensive shield, while he also has literally not a single shield node in his skill tree. If you don't see a problem with that, again, you'r retarded.
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Grace at lvl 20 = 2016 ev. 26% aura effects = 2540
110% evasion from tree = 5334 EV which is converted into armor.
So yeah, its not 5k max. Dont be bad at maths
He can run determination on life and boost that amount by 50% but doesn't choose to for unknown reason. Maybe he doesn't wanna recast aura between maps. Point is it's easy and possible to have 8k armor with this build. Have you ever played CI? How much armor have you had? Proof?
i just gave absolutely random estimates, which fyi are incredibly low, even 9k armour alone is nowhere near enough, fyi.
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say he runs a 30 chaos damage map. Say his chaos res is absolutely pathetic at -60%. He lose 48 ES per second. 50% of his ES is 3000. To lose half of his ES it takes 62.5 second, more than 1 minute. Is that your definition of "within seconds"?
than, master of common sense, do explain to me, how on his chaos res map is he loosing so much es while being out of fight. RIDDLE ME THAT BRO.
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I'm an above average player with gear worth more than 500 ex and I choose Vaal pact over regen. What'd you got?
If your daft head still can't figure it out, what we'r all saying here is that how can this build be claimed to be ultimate end game or best build, if only characters with rediculous amounts of currency can play it, what's the point. This is a "twink" build at best, a joke build, a build one would do bored after having played this game for over a year. And YOU are able to survive with vaal pact BECAUSE you aparently too have found some sort of grail in this game and i guess you too are making 10-15ex a day.
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First off, price for dream fragment in Standard is at least 3.5 ex in Standard. WHere the hell do you get the 10 chaos price tag? Do you even play the game? Secondly, we went over this already. No flask can replace Dream frag for an ES build, that's why IT'S SELLING FOR 3.5 EX AND NOT 10 CHAOS.
It's selling that high, for currency buying noobs like yourself. hell i'll sell you one for 50 ex if you feel like it buddy, if you think that'll prove your point. Secondly as i already said, a simple grap flask with charge on crit and dispell frozen suffices for thousands of other players playing end game. not sure why exactly it doesn't suffice for you two, oh right you'r both brain dead and have reactions as if you'r from a different time dimension.
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You've seen his stats. You've watched his videos. Too jealous to accept the fact, perhaps?
my build cost me more than ten times cheaper than it cost him. It also farms faster and tanks a lot better. Yes i am indeed very jelous that some currency buying noob wanted to glorify his crappy build and fool noob players out of this game, because he was the one shouting the loudest that aparently his and no one else's build is better. Yes his gear is stupidly expensive, but I don't know which other words to use to explain this to you two. His build, is also incredibly inefficient, and not ultimate as he proudly claims it to be. His build, is a complete waste of internet bites and not worthy of sharing with general public, let alone glorifying.
literally anyone with aegis max block and max spell block can run those maps with eyes closed currency buying noob. That's the whole point of that kinds of builds, low dps but actual impossible to kill tank. l2p idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_MO_sX-AOQ
look at that video clueless noob, what was that you said? the guys gear doesn't cost a third of yours. RIP currency?
I will repeat yet again, doing ridiculously easy map affixes means literally nothing in your gear. n o t h i n g. It doesn't at all confirm any of your points. You are yet to reply anything at my stabs on major flaws in your defenses, as well as skill tree which i keep saying over and over to no reply.
Once you watch my video, you'll see just how much stronger my character is than his :].
(I kill her in about 4-5 seconds on the first stage, and then each piety does in 6 seconds after that. I don't die. The guy in the video is incomparable to how strong my character actually is).
ALSO, -max resist is much scarier than GMP, from my personal experience. He's not taking a lot of single-hit damage from piety's attacks because he has like 77-80% resists. Meanwhile, piety on -max resist maps does double the damage of piety on non -max resist maps (atleast her lightning).
I will give the guy props for fighting double piety. It's no easy feat. But A. This isn't physical reflect and B. This isn't -max resists.
Just wait until you see the video.
you'r literally brain dead or something? look at the video i linked, freeze it on 0:05. what do we see? oh right
-elemental weakness
-4 projectiles
-2 bosses
Btw, how much do you want to bet that the guy is using best in slot items as well? He probably has a mirrored chestpiece, and is using some of the strongest ES/Armour or EV/Armour items in the game. Also, he's using soul taker, which is likely legacy, whcih is about 120+ exalts currently.
SO I guess 600 ES, 60% spell damage which is now converted into 60% physical damage doesn't count. Without block nodes this shield is just a huge waste of slot which adds absolutely NOTHING to the character. Really? Are you even listening to yourself
yeah, i don't listen to myself, i don't speak to myself i'm not some freak as you two. But what i DO know, is this guy has incredibly expensive shield, while he also has literally not a single shield node in his skill tree. If you don't see a problem with that, again, you'r retarded.
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Grace at lvl 20 = 2016 ev. 26% aura effects = 2540
110% evasion from tree = 5334 EV which is converted into armor.
So yeah, its not 5k max. Dont be bad at maths
He can run determination on life and boost that amount by 50% but doesn't choose to for unknown reason. Maybe he doesn't wanna recast aura between maps. Point is it's easy and possible to have 8k armor with this build. Have you ever played CI? How much armor have you had? Proof?
i just gave absolutely random estimates, which fyi are incredibly low, even 9k armour alone is nowhere near enough, fyi.
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say he runs a 30 chaos damage map. Say his chaos res is absolutely pathetic at -60%. He lose 48 ES per second. 50% of his ES is 3000. To lose half of his ES it takes 62.5 second, more than 1 minute. Is that your definition of "within seconds"?
than, master of common sense, do explain to me, how on his chaos res map is he loosing so much es while being out of fight. RIDDLE ME THAT BRO.
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I'm an above average player with gear worth more than 500 ex and I choose Vaal pact over regen. What'd you got?
If your daft head still can't figure it out, what we'r all saying here is that how can this build be claimed to be ultimate end game or best build, if only characters with rediculous amounts of currency can play it, what's the point. This is a "twink" build at best, a joke build, a build one would do bored after having played this game for over a year. And YOU are able to survive with vaal pact BECAUSE you aparently too have found some sort of grail in this game and i guess you too are making 10-15ex a day.
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First off, price for dream fragment in Standard is at least 3.5 ex in Standard. WHere the hell do you get the 10 chaos price tag? Do you even play the game? Secondly, we went over this already. No flask can replace Dream frag for an ES build, that's why IT'S SELLING FOR 3.5 EX AND NOT 10 CHAOS.
It's selling that high, for currency buying noobs like yourself. hell i'll sell you one for 50 ex if you feel like it buddy, if you think that'll prove your point. Secondly as i already said, a simple grap flask with charge on crit and dispell frozen suffices for thousands of other players playing end game. not sure why exactly it doesn't suffice for you two, oh right you'r both brain dead and have reactions as if you'r from a different time dimension.
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You've seen his stats. You've watched his videos. Too jealous to accept the fact, perhaps?
my build cost me more than ten times cheaper than it cost him. It also farms faster and tanks a lot better. Yes i am indeed very jelous that some currency buying noob wanted to glorify his crappy build and fool noob players out of this game, because he was the one shouting the loudest that aparently his and no one else's build is better. Yes his gear is stupidly expensive, but I don't know which other words to use to explain this to you two. His build, is also incredibly inefficient, and not ultimate as he proudly claims it to be. His build, is a complete waste of internet bites and not worthy of sharing with general public, let alone glorifying.
Nobody that has the kind of items you have should be complaining that my build is too expensive. Your soul taker costs as much as as a mirror, and you have 1900 evasion 6L chestpiece, and a 386 dps 1h sword. Not to mention that you also have a ming's heart... All that stuff amounts to 200+ exalts. I only have about 3x as much currency as you do. That's not a big difference, considering just how much more knowledgeable I am than you are. In fact, with your lack of knowledge about the game, I would bet that you were a RMT buyer.
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st is the only expensive item in my build. All others put together would amount to 30-40ex at best. Your chest alone is 200+ ex on current offers on the forums, as well as having not one but THREE #1-2-3-4 whatever mirrored items, amounting to a LOT more value than you claim it to be. Again it's pretty simple maths, even if you personally have been playing since day one of closed beta, i highly, very very highly doubt it would have been possible at all to either craft-trade-or accumulate the amount of currency required to get this. I on the other hand have acquired all of my items through crafting self and trading for 2 months. I know exactly how markets are in this game because i just spent over 7 weeks doing just that daily, simply to acquire the currency for what i needed. And i can surely tell you this, there is no way in hell, a single person could have acquired the goods you have legit way. unless you'r a robot have no life literally and have been sitting in trade chat actively for many, many,many months. This is the exact problem of standard servers, the markets are bloated with huge prices for legacy items such as these, which new players, or players looking for new builds will most probably never EVER have enough currency to acquire. Let alone having more than 4 of such on one single toon.
And as last words, as entertaining as it was to smash your logic and pathetic build,LOL you two are just a complete joke. When you got nothing sensible to reply, you just shoot back my jabs at you right back at me. As entertaining as it were, i will just say it once again in hope new players might notice it in the mountain of self-glorification. Your build sucks. And you suck at arguing. Do you know of the first rule of an argument? When you'r caught lieing, stop lieing. When you'r proven wrong, admit to it and try to show other positive points you may have, that may be right.If you don't follow those simple rules, you'r just look more of a joke to everybody with common sense that is all. I never said your dps and clear speeds are bad. I said your survival is a joke. And that is exactly why, as you claim in your own videos, you are running out of currency. I can only wonder how many chaos it'll cost you to be able to lvl 90+. And about you running out of currency, again as you say in your own videos. It is mind blowing since apparently you know some secret ways of getting 80+ ex a week which none of us sure as hell know of. Gratz on problably one of the most expensive currency item builds out there, which can clear map affixes that just about anyone else can clear just as easily. Good day.
Last edited by Ashkatar#5072 on Dec 1, 2013, 8:15:48 PM