Basically your argument is that if you out-gear the content pulse totem is better. I agree with you. If you go ahead and acknowledge that ice spear totem is a better choice when you're undergeared, we'll all be in agreement and can go home.
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Riverside77 wrote:
and wtf dude by your own admission you don't have a 20% ice spear and a 20% freeze pulse and by your own admission quality is more important to freeze pulse than it is ice spear. So you have done 0 real testing, case dismissed.
If you are under geared thats on you not me what do you want a donation?
Seems like everything that needs to be said has been said. I don't know why you refuse to accept that low geared people's experiences are relevant and valid. However, hidden under your condescension is implied agreement, oddly enough. Above you appear to recognize that without 20% quality pulse, pulse is not a good option. Hence, ice spear is the low gear solution.
Last edited by magicrectangle#3352 on Mar 19, 2013, 12:28:29 AM
Awesome build, changed it a bit to take 5%max res, some shield 15%resist nodes and crit multi nodes below spell totem. Atm in 8K ES+80%allres+130%quantity+160%rarity+2.09ice spear cast rate on totems... it's not them protecting me, but me who actually protect totems so they didnt get killed, especially from caster groups :P
Have to say - this build is awesome. In both vatiations - FP and Ice spear. Conversion trap has become useless with time, frost wall helps against rushing birds, other than that once you get 5k es you don't have to worry to survive at all. Not using spectres(maybe i will on 75+maps, but never got one to drop, no idea how people get it), 6 charges of fire trap is usually enough to nuke everything. Sometimes inviting some friends just to follow and get exp while i kill everything(cause i've got shitloads of MF and they got nothing).
Tbh don't have any mana issues, i even removed 3x20%regen nodes and one 12%max mana node, still got ~110regen and 1150mana. Not using reduce mana on totem, just on auras and curses. Maps with 50%manareg reduction are ok too.
Basically your argument is that if you out-gear the content pulse totem is better. I agree with you. If you go ahead and acknowledge that ice spear totem is a better choice when you're undergeared, we'll all be in agreement and can go home.
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Riverside77 wrote:
and wtf dude by your own admission you don't have a 20% ice spear and a 20% freeze pulse and by your own admission quality is more important to freeze pulse than it is ice spear. So you have done 0 real testing, case dismissed.
If you are under geared thats on you not me what do you want a donation?
Seems like everything that needs to be said has been said. I don't know why you refuse to accept that low geared people's experiences are relevant and valid. However, hidden under your condescension is implied agreement, oddly enough. Above you appear to recognize that without 20% quality pulse, pulse is not a good option. Hence, ice spear is the low gear solution.
Maybe ice spear is better low geared, but who cares about low gear? Oh ya only people with low gear. Below your condescension is the admission that you were infact wrong about which one is best against hard content.
Just an fyi a 66 map rolled to be hard (high quant) is likely harder than some 73+ map rolled to be easy w/ easy mods. Especially solo...
Last edited by Riverside77#2930 on Mar 19, 2013, 12:40:32 AM
Basically your argument is that if you out-gear the content pulse totem is better. I agree with you. If you go ahead and acknowledge that ice spear totem is a better choice when you're undergeared, we'll all be in agreement and can go home.
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Riverside77 wrote:
and wtf dude by your own admission you don't have a 20% ice spear and a 20% freeze pulse and by your own admission quality is more important to freeze pulse than it is ice spear. So you have done 0 real testing, case dismissed.
If you are under geared thats on you not me what do you want a donation?
Seems like everything that needs to be said has been said. I don't know why you refuse to accept that low geared people's experiences are relevant and valid. However, hidden under your condescension is implied agreement, oddly enough. Above you appear to recognize that without 20% quality pulse, pulse is not a good option. Hence, ice spear is the low gear solution.
Maybe ice spear is better low geared, but who cares about low gear? Oh ya only people with low gear. Below your condescension is the admission that you were infact wrong about which one is best against hard content.
Just an fyi a 66 map rolled to be hard (high quant) is likely harder than some 73+ map rolled to be easy w/ easy mods. Especially solo...
I Tried FP yesterday and I like it in maps with small gaps. As for open map I like ice spear so I think I will be swapping around. The one issue I had with FP is that the sound effect is killing my head lol.
Here is my current MF gear. I am planning to get a new wand and change up some items to IQ. You said that you're avg 1 unique per 3 Maps? Guess RNG is not on my side I think I avg 6-7 Maps per unique maybe I need more IQ?
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FP I use is 20%. Highest Map done is 73. No luck on higher map drops.
What is your dps with FP and Ice Spear?
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Last edited by clon8888#2947 on Mar 19, 2013, 1:43:53 PM
ya you should drop aurseize for sadima and get goldwyrm boots quant is very important I run 120 quant/270 rarity seems to be optimal.
Your belt is really nice for a CI char but I run mf maps solo so I don't care about resists thus I use only belt w/ quant on it (max is 12) I plan to get a perfect stat/quant one eventually.
If you can get over 100 quant w/ that belt on i'd say keep it I really like it :-). Running maps solo tho high resists isn't a huge issue with this build as you can frostwall / stay behind totems and with spectre varation if you are doing it right you shouldn't be getting hit alot
(try to get the rocks or bears as spectres and use 2 minion life pots and just keep feeding them life every time the pot has any juice in it)
even running maps in full groups w/ crap resists is just fine w/ this build cause you got more meat shields anyway.
basically if you don't have atleast 100 quant all the rarity in the world is almost worthless.
Last edited by Riverside77#2930 on Mar 19, 2013, 2:02:56 PM
Awesome build, changed it a bit to take 5%max res, some shield 15%resist nodes and crit multi nodes below spell totem. Atm in 8K ES+80%allres+130%quantity+160%rarity+2.09ice spear cast rate on totems... it's not them protecting me, but me who actually protect totems so they didnt get killed, especially from caster groups :P
Have to say - this build is awesome. In both vatiations - FP and Ice spear. Conversion trap has become useless with time, frost wall helps against rushing birds, other than that once you get 5k es you don't have to worry to survive at all. Not using spectres(maybe i will on 75+maps, but never got one to drop, no idea how people get it), 6 charges of fire trap is usually enough to nuke everything. Sometimes inviting some friends just to follow and get exp while i kill everything(cause i've got shitloads of MF and they got nothing).
Tbh don't have any mana issues, i even removed 3x20%regen nodes and one 12%max mana node, still got ~110regen and 1150mana. Not using reduce mana on totem, just on auras and curses. Maps with 50%manareg reduction are ok too.
Could you please explain how you get that much mana reg? Did you level clarity to max? Do you have a lot of mana reg on your gear? I got 45 mana reg and it's just not enough...
That's my gear and skills if you wanna check btw..
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devynee wrote:
Hi,
I reached level 70 with this build (first character) and I am pretty happy with it as I can do relatively hard maps with my not-so-optimal equipment. :)
I have a few questions now:
1. Do you think Minion Instability is worth it?
2. What about Elemental Adaptation?
3. Would you go for the Body and Soul point in the Templar starting area? (going down from top at the Agility/Might points)
4. How would you solve mana issues? Level Clarity?
I am asking these questions because I need more of everything. More ES (about 3200+ atm), more damage (so my Ice Spears can freeze higher mobs), more Mana / Mana reg and I just don't have the experience to know what is most important at this point!
Here my items (I switch around a lot for reduced mana plus I am currently leveling all the curses):
