Oro's Ceaseless Discharger (Spectral Throw + Cast on Crit Discharge)

how much crit chance you need to get this working?
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spktje wrote:
how much crit chance you need to get this working?


Around 40% is "good enough" but on this build you can never have enough. That is without any power charges.
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spktje wrote:
how much crit chance you need to get this working?


I'm leveling this spec now and things started to feel 'smoother' once I was able to work my way down the dagger crit nodes at the top of the tree by EB. This was roughly around the time that ST's crit hit ~40%. Maybe around lvl 45 or so.
I've died twice on this build in the 30-45 level range. I find myself too squishy to be melee, and too weak on crit chance to get off discharges to leech and stay alive.

Anyone mind sharing the secret to this awkward phase of the build?

Also, any suggestions on good leveling daggers or pointers on gear for this range? I use
for both of the deceased toons. I've had no problems with DPS. In fact clear speed was very high using dual/mult/splash and manually discharging.

Thanks in advance.
I am level 76 with this build and doing fairly well. I however find that I am having some mana issues. I have roughly 480 mana with +48 mana on my gear using this skill tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABAcFfQhnDkgRlhVQFm8WvxzcHRQfAiQ8J6ktHy2oMZ41kjZ7NsU64T1fQYdGcUk7SVFMs03jUDBSU1XGVupabV76YqxjQ2ZPaHRtGXBScFZ-WX_GgUmCHoMJiEKI8Y9Gj_qQG5MnlKCXlZf0mhOdo52qplenCKdcrFmxkLI4tAy0o7c-t9bAUcHFwfPPZdDQ1p3YJNhN2mLbC9tZ29TjhOdj8h3yRfPq-ej60vyr_gr-jw== I find that I cannot run clarity and discipline simultaneously using a maxed clarity. I run out of mana after spamming spectral around 8 times. Is there any reason my mana pool is so low compared to the 666 in your video? Any suggestions friends?
Last edited by IncestLord on Dec 3, 2013, 11:58:04 AM
These are my items btw
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IncestLord wrote:
I am level 76 with this build and doing fairly well. I however find that I am having some mana issues. I have roughly 480 mana with +48 mana on my gear using this skill tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABAcFfQhnDkgRlhVQFm8WvxzcHRQfAiQ8J6ktHy2oMZ41kjZ7NsU64T1fQYdGcUk7SVFMs03jUDBSU1XGVupabV76YqxjQ2ZPaHRtGXBScFZ-WX_GgUmCHoMJiEKI8Y9Gj_qQG5MnlKCXlZf0mhOdo52qplenCKdcrFmxkLI4tAy0o7c-t9bAUcHFwfPPZdDQ1p3YJNhN2mLbC9tZ29TjhOdj8h3yRfPq-ej60vyr_gr-jw== I find that I cannot run clarity and discipline simultaneously using a maxed clarity. I run out of mana after spamming spectral around 8 times. Is there any reason my mana pool is so low compared to the 666 in your video? Any suggestions friends?


With your gear, and without using discipline aura, you aren't getting any (real) benefit from EB as you have pretty much no +energy shield (absolute or percentage). Furthermore, you have pretty much no +mana on your gear. Lastly, you have no +intellect on your gear at all. Remember as well, Voll's Protector cuts your total mana by half. After all this, Clarity purely by itself isn't going to cut it.

You may want to drop the max level Clarity for a level of Clarity at which you can run Discipline AND Clarity (and still have enough mana left over to cast your highest-cost skill) - the Reduced Mana support gem helps a lot. If you are not aware, the greater your mana pool the greater your base mana regen is - so Discipline (with EB) helps both as a buffer and for sustained use.

You'll probably want to try and get some mana/energy shield on your gear somewhere too, although with a max level Discipline and an appropriate level of clarity you may get away with the little you have on your gear (hard to tell with the lack of intellect as well). Use a level 1 spectral throw if you are not already; the difference in the manacost is fairly significant when you include the multipliers from the support gems linked to it.
Last edited by Aimeryan on Dec 3, 2013, 1:09:35 PM
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Aimeryan wrote:
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IncestLord wrote:
I am level 76 with this build and doing fairly well. I however find that I am having some mana issues. I have roughly 480 mana with +48 mana on my gear using this skill tree http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAABAcFfQhnDkgRlhVQFm8WvxzcHRQfAiQ8J6ktHy2oMZ41kjZ7NsU64T1fQYdGcUk7SVFMs03jUDBSU1XGVupabV76YqxjQ2ZPaHRtGXBScFZ-WX_GgUmCHoMJiEKI8Y9Gj_qQG5MnlKCXlZf0mhOdo52qplenCKdcrFmxkLI4tAy0o7c-t9bAUcHFwfPPZdDQ1p3YJNhN2mLbC9tZ29TjhOdj8h3yRfPq-ej60vyr_gr-jw== I find that I cannot run clarity and discipline simultaneously using a maxed clarity. I run out of mana after spamming spectral around 8 times. Is there any reason my mana pool is so low compared to the 666 in your video? Any suggestions friends?


With your gear, and without using discipline aura, you aren't getting any (real) benefit from EB as you have pretty much no +energy shield (absolute or percentage). Furthermore, you have pretty much no +mana on your gear. Lastly, you have no +intellect on your gear at all. Remember as well, Voll's Protector cuts your total mana by half. After all this, Clarity purely by itself isn't going to cut it.

You may want to drop the max level Clarity for a level of Clarity at which you can run Discipline AND Clarity (and still have enough mana left over to cast your highest-cost skill) - the Reduced Mana support gem helps a lot. If you are not aware, the greater your mana pool the greater your base mana regen is - so Discipline (with EB) helps both as a buffer and for sustained use.

You'll probably want to try and get some mana/energy shield on your gear somewhere too, although with a max level Discipline and an appropriate level of clarity you may get away with the little you have on your gear (hard to tell with the lack of intellect as well). Use a level 1 spectral throw if you are not already; the difference in the manacost is fairly significant when you include the multipliers from the support gems linked to it.


Well the thing is that oro is using a total of +56 mana and ES gear and I am using +48 mana gear given that I am running EB. Also neither of us have any int gear. He has a max mana pool of 666 in the video and I have 480. Is this right? Is all I need to get +8 more max mana gear? I am running spec throw lvl 1 and clarity lvl 6. Something seems off. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks friends.
i can't afford the unique voll ammy. so i'm looking for what optimal stats i should be looking for on a yellow ammy. things like 20% increased spell amage and adds 10-20 fire damage doesn't affect the damage of discharge right??
How do you handle single target, like Piety, or regen elites extra health?

Or Refect? just skip?


How about weapon swap to an Int based skill?

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