[1.0.0] Dodge critical dagger: Spectral throw/double/Reave/Lightning/flicker bloodrage nonCI (video)

hmm, I'm not sure if my mana would be able to support it. Double strike costs 36 mana as a 4l and I have 77 mana with a lv17 reduced mana gem for auras. So basically I can do two double strikes without running out of mana which is nice if dysnc happens or for some reason I'm not hitting the mob. I don't run with mana pots and my mana regen sucks. It's just lame at any point to have to auto attack because you ran out of mana lol

Blood magic gem on 5L also frees up a passive point. My chest has 5 sockets and I blew 50 fuses trying to link it lol :( don't think I'll try again..
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nicblue wrote:
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respjames wrote:
Hello, I was working on finishing up your passive build and had a question about what to get first for the last 20 or so points. I haven't taken the Adders touch nodes, or the Stabbing Comeback nodes, or the Heartseeker nodes, or the Aspect of the Panther/Weapon Artistry nodes. Also was wondering how important is the 20% accuracy that Depth Perception gives?


Here is my build at lv76.
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABH4FfQW1DPIOSBEvEZYV8Ba_GL0a2xzcHhoi6iP2JDwmlSepKCorbyzhMFQwcTB8Nj04GzpCOlg-z0lRS3hRR1VLVupW9VpIWm1h4mKsbXtwUnC7feN-WX8rf8aHGYfbiGuMNo19jb-OipfQmVedlp2jnaqly6Z_pzSnXKp_qrisZrGzskS0xbVItve5Pr3mwFHGotQj1QDWitad2Hbbbt2o44TnVOjW6xTtQe4O7_DxdvPq-WP8q_-T


The first time around I went aspect of panther over stabbing comeback and ended up dying to a lv68 map (had 3.1k hp) now I have 3.9k hp (built more around HP this time). My accuracy is 82% without the depth perception node, however I do have a ring that gives 9% acc + 115 acc. I wouldn't want to fall below 80% acc but that's just me.

IMO, for you I would take Adder's touch nodes first, are you playing hardcore or standard?


Hey... watching your passive tree made me think about some things.
1) What's the real advantage on wasting 2 passives to get Nullification? Is is just because you have low res gear?
2) I'm also thinking like you about Depth perception and think I'll go for Fitnese in exchange for it with +8% AS

Please take a look at my tree:


And gear:
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Gonna start maps just now LoL.
But my life for now is only about 3k. Should I go for the life nodes beside Mind Drinker for example?

Accepting any advices to make it better! :)
Last edited by HimuraBr#5418 on Nov 29, 2013, 4:59:07 PM
Can u update ur skill build ?

i completed it , need some advices about this build
@HimuraBr Yea, I have three points invested in 14% all res. It is indeed a lot to invest for three passives, however on nemesis gear with HP and tri or even dual res is hard to find/expensive. I've already been one shotted from lv68 reef map boss who uses magic, I don't intend on that happening again so giving up some dps will just have to do.

Here is my gear:
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A lot of my gear has high resist in one area. Body and shield are the easiest place to find more resists but finding 1k+ eva with life and high resists on nemesis is a huge headache lol. My main curse is enfeeble, I've just been fooling around with different ones (vulnerability in this case).

I noticed you have a 5L which if you used blood magic, you wouldn't need mind drinker. I also see you use reave over double strike. Have you tried double strike + a quality melee splash? it's pretty nice. If I had a 5L I would never need to use mana, other than to summon skele's off totem. I use blood magic gems for both curses, blood rage, and enduring cry.
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I've been following this guide somewhat for my nemesis character, and been doing really well with it over the last few days. Just started doing maps today and it's very effective and fun. Mostly leveled using flicker strike from level 40 or so till 60 which was insanely fast (and epilepsy inducing) but switched to reave for maps as it's a fair bit safer.
Still struggling to get a 5 link though.. I wish they weren't so damn expensive :(
@nicblue Yeah, i understand your cenario. I wouldn't like to be one shotted too!
Your gear is pretty nice despite of not having dual or tri resistances. But in my point of view yr spending 5 passives instead of 3 due to Clear Mind. You will have a chance to improve your dps a lot when you gear up with more resistances.

Now about your suggestion. Yeah, i see many people saying about using Blood Magic instead of using Mind Drinker. Haven't tried it yet for some reasons:
1) Already wasted about 30 or more chromatic with failure to get at least 2 red sockets in my chest because I don't want to drop multistrike of course
2) Besides of this issue pointed up here i still doubt that using tempest shield will bring me better results than dropping some dps off (due to a socket used for blod magic). Can you guys give me some examples (with numbers) about this?
3) Haven't tried doulbe strike + melee splash because of item 1. Also, i think that Concentrated Effect works great with Reave and as I tested it doesn't work with melee splash :(

In the future, I want to finish the build like this:
Last edited by HimuraBr#5418 on Nov 30, 2013, 7:52:25 PM
I am glad for your discussion for this build. I don't play this critical dagger shield build recently. I am playing 5 aura ST and 2 H build marauder because of more efficiency and safe.

5 Aura Elemental Spectral Throw Sword Shield Ranger demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLpxafrutVw&feature=youtu.be

2 H Mara with double splash and ST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPcMRbZSXx4


My opinion in critical physical dagger shield dagger

(1) Life need > 5000 in melee build, > 4000 is in ranger attacker are necessary. It is safe in mapping
(2) With good ES hybrid armor and Lv > 80, you can shift to EB mode with mind drinker. So you can drop BM gem, and shift "DS + MultiStrike + MeleeSplash + MPD + FA + BM" to DS + MultiStrike + MeleeSplash + MPD + FA + AFD. Dps will be massive elevated!! Of course, BM gem usage is friendly to newbie without good enough gear!
(3) Don't waste your node to resistance. Maximal resist can be achieved by equipment!
(4) Sometimes reave is not so efficiency for farming because you should stack 1 to 8 for each group of mobs. But it is quite safe for keeping a distance from the mobs in mapping.
(5) I suggest to get 6 L Tabula Rasa and a good evasion shield! This is a easy way to elevate to dps!
Just posting my take on this build, I've got to level 70 so far and it's soo much fun playing with crits, I am doing level 70 magic maps right now and feel safe doing so, the only problem I have is my life pool is only around 2.3k. I know most people will say use rares instead of so many uniques to get more hp but my crit chance is too good to give up, I have around 60% without increased crit chance and get 22k dps with frenzy charges. Also would it be better to try get rrrggg on my armour and use double strike + mana leech + faster attacks + multistrike + melee splash = melee phys? instead of increased crit damage. Could do with some advice




This is my gear

And this is my passive tree.
WomanOfExcessiveCrits - 97 Scion Spectral Throw CoC
ManOfManyCrits - 95 Shadow Life Based Phys Crit ST
WomanOfSubstantialCrits - 95 Scion Explosive Arrow MF
WomanOfSuperflousCrits - 90 Scion Lowlife Spectral Throw
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1100222
Last edited by KieranHardy#4574 on Jun 14, 2014, 6:31:30 PM

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