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Invalesco wrote:

How to use a Divine Orb
Spoiler
Divine Orbs reroll the stats on all mods in an item (including uniques) and can only reroll it within it's mod range. (or in the case of uniques, within the unique item's mod ranges)

Let's take a look at this item:


Question: Oh man that item only has +9 Energy Shield. I'd like to use a divine orb on it to roll +106! Can I?

Ans: No.

Take a look at this screenshot again.


That item has +9 ES, and that lies within the Glittering prefix which has a value range of 9-12.

Hence, if you divine the above-mentioned shield, you will only get a maximum of +12 ES.

Question: Do divine orbs always roll things higher?

Ans: No.



If you notice this item, it has +142 ES which lies within the Incandescent prefix. If you divine it, sure it might hit +148, however, it might also go down to as low as +107. In addition, it might roll the 170% Increased ES to as low as 121%. Even if you do manage to roll +142 to +148, the 170% might roll down to 130% making the overall ES lower than it used to be.

Once again, although crafting is very much about luck and RnG, You must also know when to take a gamble and when to stop.




So let me get this straight...
If you want to craft an item like this shield for example with more local energy shield, you have to alteration and scour until you get a magic item with a +es rating of 107-148.

On top of this, the item level for the shield has to be above 69

Is this correct?
Also is the % chance of rolling those 107-148 + es mods on an ilvl 72 shield the same as rolling the lower ones?

So basically, the best way to craft (Keeping minimizing currency in mind) Is to basically get a high ilevel item that can spawn those mods... pick 3 stats that you want from an item from the mods compendium spreadsheed... then transmute and alt until you get two in the desired range, then regal, hoping for the third one to appear?
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SEXYSUPERSATAN wrote:
hi,



itemlevel 77, should I scour this and start over again (as 88 flat energy shield isn't the highest possible roll)?


If it's an upgrade for now, keep it. If not and you want the ultimate ES chest, scour it. If you can sell it for more than what a new ilevel77 ES chest would cost though, then sell it and use the profits to fund your next crafting attempt.

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Shocking wrote:

So let me get this straight...
If you want to craft an item like this shield for example with more local energy shield, you have to alteration and scour until you get a magic item with a +es rating of 107-148.

On top of this, the item level for the shield has to be above 69

Is this correct?
Also is the % chance of rolling those 107-148 + es mods on an ilvl 72 shield the same as rolling the lower ones?

So basically, the best way to craft (Keeping minimizing currency in mind) Is to basically get a high ilevel item that can spawn those mods... pick 3 stats that you want from an item from the mods compendium spreadsheed... then transmute and alt until you get two in the desired range, then regal, hoping for the third one to appear?


Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. and for the 2 stats that you want, one has to be a prefix and the other a suffix. In all honesty though, don't try and restrict yourself to having 2 useful stats on a magic item before you regal it. If you have 1 desired top-end stat, even if the 2nd one isn't that great, it's worth a regal.
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Is there any guide which mentions which white items are worth keeping, and have the potential of being converted to uniques?
A suggestion to the OP, switch to imgur for pictures, they don't block on bandwidth.
so i want to start crafting

(its ilv77 )

and i wonder what the highest possible Es roll is
so i konw when it's time to stop ;)
i saw a 424 one on the forum
and as i understand 700+ is no longer possible...

(sl4y3r's closed beta circlet , or was it TehHammer's idk anymore xD )


and what i still don't understand is what the preffixes mean for the mods
i mean there are :
Base Max Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield +%
Max Energy Shield +% as prefixx but the mods are
% Increased Energiy Shield and
+ Maximum Energy Shield as mods.

whats the difference between base and local?

can someone give me an example how to calculate 3 preffixes into the 2 mods?
is it ((100+72)+(120+50)%)+20%=557 ES ??
100 , the circlet itself
+49 to +72 , Blazing (Local Energy Shield)
101 to 120% , Unconquerable (Local Energy Shield +%)
42 to 50 , Djinn's (Local Energy Shield +% / Base Stun Recovery +%)
20% , quakity


also what is the highest roll for a vaal regalia now?
is +1000 Es still possible?
<3ggg
Last edited by moomaaru#4809 on Mar 5, 2013, 2:19:27 PM
I'm trying to craft ilvl 77 chest, but I'm not convincd that the regal/exalt method is more efficient than chaos.

Keep in mind I'm talking just about chest piece here.



There's only 2 prefixes I want and that's +ES and +%ES. I don't care about suffix or any other prefixes.

3 exalts + alts/regal + scouring for 2 prefixes does not seem worth it to me at all.

That's equivalent to 50+ chaos orbs.

So, I think chaos game makes a lot more sense here.

What say you?
IGN: Purohana
Chaos game is definitely cheaper if you do not wish for an ultimate, end-game piece. Took me 30 chaos for this.
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moomaaru wrote:
so i want to start crafting

(its ilv77 )

and i wonder what the highest possible Es roll is
so i konw when it's time to stop ;)
i saw a 424 one on the forum
and as i understand 700+ is no longer possible...

(sl4y3r's closed beta circlet , or was it TehHammer's idk anymore xD )


and what i still don't understand is what the preffixes mean for the mods
i mean there are :
Base Max Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield +%
Max Energy Shield +% as prefixx but the mods are
% Increased Energiy Shield and
+ Maximum Energy Shield as mods.

whats the difference between base and local?

can someone give me an example how to calculate 3 preffixes into the 2 mods?
is it ((100+72)+(120+50)%)+20%=557 ES ??
100 , the circlet itself
+49 to +72 , Blazing (Local Energy Shield)
101 to 120% , Unconquerable (Local Energy Shield +%)
42 to 50 , Djinn's (Local Energy Shield +% / Base Stun Recovery +%)
20% , quakity


also what is the highest roll for a vaal regalia now?
is +1000 Es still possible?


For the purpose of non-jewellery pieces, just focus on

Local energy shield, Local energy shield% and the energy shield and stun recovery

Ezomyte base ES = 100

Presuming highest rolls of the highest mods = (100+145)*2.7*1.2 = 793 ES (Highest achievable ES on an ezomyte circlet)

Vaal Regalia has a base ES of 175

So, (175+145)*2.7*1.2 = 1036 ES (highest achievable ES on a Vaal)

@puroburo - from experience I've found the alt/regal/exalt method to be cheaper because you get more control. nguyen259 was actually quite lucky to be able to achieve that decent chestpiece within just 30 chaos.

But he's right, for an ultimate, end-game piece, alt/regal/exalt method is about the only method possible.
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Invalesco wrote:
Spoiler
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moomaaru wrote:
so i want to start crafting

(its ilv77 )

and i wonder what the highest possible Es roll is
so i konw when it's time to stop ;)
i saw a 424 one on the forum
and as i understand 700+ is no longer possible...

(sl4y3r's closed beta circlet , or was it TehHammer's idk anymore xD )


and what i still don't understand is what the preffixes mean for the mods
i mean there are :
Base Max Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield,
Local Energy Shield +%
Max Energy Shield +% as prefixx but the mods are
% Increased Energiy Shield and
+ Maximum Energy Shield as mods.

whats the difference between base and local?

can someone give me an example how to calculate 3 preffixes into the 2 mods?
is it ((100+72)+(120+50)%)+20%=557 ES ??
100 , the circlet itself
+49 to +72 , Blazing (Local Energy Shield)
101 to 120% , Unconquerable (Local Energy Shield +%)
42 to 50 , Djinn's (Local Energy Shield +% / Base Stun Recovery +%)
20% , quakity


also what is the highest roll for a vaal regalia now?
is +1000 Es still possible?


For the purpose of non-jewellery pieces, just focus on

Local energy shield, Local energy shield% and the energy shield and stun recovery

Ezomyte base ES = 100

Presuming highest rolls of the highest mods = (100+145)*2.7*1.2 = 793 ES (Highest achievable ES on an ezomyte circlet)

Vaal Regalia has a base ES of 175

So, (175+145)*2.7*1.2 = 1036 ES (highest achievable ES on a Vaal)

Spoiler


thanks inva ;)
hmm, but Mods Compendium states that the highest roll for a helm can only be 49 to 72 Local Energy Shield, ain't that right?
<3ggg
Last edited by moomaaru#4809 on Mar 5, 2013, 3:17:01 PM
i'm afraid I don't know. But trying to turn up a search in POE indexer does indeed not show any ES helms with beyond +72 ES so that might very well be right. in which case the max ES will be far lower than 700
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