Perz' Reave Shadow

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Feoras wrote:

but you evade way more with ES anyway. Well my opinion at least.

First off, Evasion and ES aren't related, at all. Life and ES are both simply a sponge. A bubble that when empty causes death ( if you're CI)

Also at no point did I mean to say leveling as CI is hard or impossible. But why do it at all till you can run hatred and discipline?

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Feoras wrote:

(1,8k dps, 1,6k ES, 3L)

And finally, you find 1800 dps fine. I don't. That's good for cruel, not merc. You havn't gotten far enough to talk about "evading more with ES", (which isn't true), or to say this way or that about anything.
No offense.

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

And finally, you find 1800 dps fine. I don't. That's good for cruel, not merc. You havn't gotten far enough to talk about "evading more with ES", (which isn't true), or to say this way or that about anything.
No offense.

I guess I kinda missed the point, that's true, Sorry. I think I mixed something up.

But yeah, 1,8k dps isn't "fine". I wish I had more ofc. But it's manageable. Obviously with better gear and everything it would be easier, but it's doable. That's probably want I wanted to say but I kinda used the wrong arguments there.

Also I'm just at the middle of merc (act 2) and can't talk about end game etc. But I notice that it get's stronger the further you come and even more if you find some nice items do boost your dps.

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MikeZenith wrote:

how can you say that this build is not item dependant when you need the following not-so-cheap items:
- alpha howl for 2auras and 'cannot be frozen'.
- eye of chayula. coz you are stunned in every sec otherwise and/or desynced
- good dmg claw. its in every stash for every 10th level
- high es items, like min 2k es with discipline at 55-58lvl
- high eva / res: projectiles, spells, rare mobs with crits, frenzy charges
- q skill gems coz you need the lowest possible attrib points to make them viable: you wont get enough str from the passives nor items, coz you need res / es / eva.

and these are needed, not optional.
without hp and stun threshold reduction you are stunned to death and die instantly at the end of cruel / beginning of merciles. (eye of chayula is a must, 12+ chaos)
without enough res and hp, you are slowed / chilled. without auras: discipline / hatred / grace, you wont have enough es / dmg, not to mention that everyone in act1 will freeze you to death without 'cannot be frozen' (alpha howl, 3exalted+).
5L itemx1, 2x4L and high dmg/res items and high eva/es items and a shield with enough block chance..
2xEva flask(meele packs), 1xGranite (projectiles, archers!), 2xVariable res flasks with special attribs like 'dispels burning/bleeding/...'

yeah, not item-dependant.

spectral throw scion, almost any time of marauder, full block templar, es / phys ranger are not item dependant. they can survive and deal dmg without dying a lot thx to their passives / basic quest reward skill gems and the mechanics of the game

so pls dont try this build without enough currency / items. specially not in nemesis..

This build is aimed at being almost immortal in maps. Who cares if it's not too great leveling.
Which it is btw....with a tweak or two.
Don't go CI til later. stay life. Use your free passive resets once you have 18 of them. If you go CI without Alpha's Howl..you can't run hatred. SO why go CI while leveling??
10=15% LL( which you don't even need from gear..it's on your tree) and leveling is nothing. Use a 4L. Use hand me down life /resists gear, and a half decent claw. Pop granite flasks and rape your way to 60+


I can't defend how expensive it is in end game, but complaining about leveling? Seriously. It doesn't get any easier.
Oh, and I did docks 58-64 with 1950 ES. It really isn't that hard. Pop a ruby flask for dogs. It's about as hard as a ARPG can be...it's all about gear and progression walls because of gear.

And I don't care if it's not HC viable. Nothing is IMO. eventually you WILL die. I don't see the appeal in HC.
The only times I've ever died as this build, were because of desync. And it's not even that bad or often. In fact i've died three times.. and it was on Dominus. My life was full...all my attacks missed then boom, I'm dead. Happened three times. Piety was a faceroll. Everything else has been smooth.

saying that this build is not item-dependant is not fair and tbh blind.
thats what i 'stated'.

try starting a new character and dont pull anything (worth more than like 2 chaos) out from your stash.
your only chance is to 'slack' in groups and pick up items til you reach dominus..
btw killing him at cruel is insane alone.. and even in group you have to be lucky not to die like 5times in a row. you are basicly 1 shotted by everyone there, if not , then 2 shotted coz the 1st stuns you for a sec and your time is over. specially that bastard chaos dmg dealer with 500+ dmg and the one with flickr strike..
(yeah i picked CI to handle her and refunded that 1 point)

how do you do docks between 58-64? in merciless or cruel? you basicly end cruel at 58. i even farmed like 5-6levels at docks (@ cruel, rushed for it). but due to the lack of stun threshold reduction and eye of chayula, a basic mob-pack rapes you. all of them stuns, not to mention the 'dogs' you were talking about. a red flask lasts 3.5secs if you use it at the right time, you can make one fire-breath useless but after 1 stun from them (their basic attack @meele range) you are dead. sometimes you wont even notice the stun coz of the desync.
i do not know how many dogs have you met there, but they are not running alone ..

without 'buffed, traded, not-cheap, ...' items, your usual ES is like 1.7k when you hit docks @ cruel with discipline and with res items needed to handle fire / cold.
i died there like 10times without eye of c. and you loose a lot of xp..

desync IS a problem.
it has nothing to do with my ping which is 25-30ms max. without eye of chayula, after a flicker strike, you got randomly stunned and you desync. i died 60 times overal and i have never ever died this much in any games so far. and yeah, i played enough..
with 3-4 frenzy your AS is like 4.5 (?!) which is enough alone to make you desync.

so be fair, dont say that this build is not item-dependant. its a meele, high risk-high reward glass-cannon build. its useful in standard and you can have fun with it when you have like 40exalts to spend but you wont reach the end of merciles without help and without spending tons of chaos orbs. its almost impossible to handle that much stun / nuke potential without those items.

im not saying that this build is bad or smg, its kewl, i love the videos and stuff but its item-dependant. period
i thought it might be easier to play and use and i was sure its gonna be fun after reading the comments but i did forgot that the guys commenting here are playing this game for more than a year and have bigger stash with more items / currency then ill ever have in the league im currently playing in. and for them, for you, its easy to say that this build or any build is not item-dependant..

What about use in a 5linked chest increased critical damage? it give me 132% more critical strike damage, and with 30% chance to crit, i think is powerful gem, right?

i have 9k dps with hatred and 4 frenzy, with 5linked chest and 200pdps claw, so: i will reach at least 30k dps? i hope yes....

Please post a image with your defensive and offensive in city without abbysus.

level 72
3700ES with discipline

gear

I'm currently using this build to level, hit 68 and I've been struggling since early 50s. I don't have great gear nor enough ES. Still lacking a hatred and discpline gem, so I'm using Grace and Wrath. I got a 5l chest, but I don't have multistrike yet either. My mana reserved is currently too high for me to safely run with added fire damage, so I'm stuck using a crit damage multipler and a item rarity blue. After my frenzy stacks, I get roughly 4.1k DPS with double strike and 2.8k with reave.

I'm managing to farm hedge maze with only 1800 ES relatively easily though. I haven't died in 3 levels, except to that ice boss in imperial gardens. I think I'll be stuck farming here until I get lucky with some gear drops.

I will say though that I got CI around level 62, and then farmed the sewers for a bit. Even though the mob density is lower than docks, its much safer because more damage is allocated to chaos down there.

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MikeZenith wrote:

how do you do docks between 58-64? in merciless or cruel? you basicly end cruel at 58.

Your whole argument is void here. You should be able to get to docks at 58, easily.

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MikeZenith wrote:

im not saying that this build is bad or smg, its kewl, i love the videos and stuff but its item-dependant. period

Every single build out there needs gear.
What I admit to is that to reach 30k + dps,and 4-5k ES you need nice rings and a ridiculous claw etc, Alpha's Howl etc.
But...leveling, is nothing. Pre 70 maps, is nothing. For any build.

IMO, this build is far far superior to my old DW dulstrike/splasher. My Reaver can stand in bad, while he couldn't. HE couldn't take a hit for 4k, and instantly be back at full.
He wasn't immune to chaos dmg, my Reaver is.
50+ exalts for a Soultaker...or 25+ exalts for a beast claw, Alpha's howl etc.
It's all relative.
Almost all the content is doable with mediocre gear. I'm striving for 30-50k dps, and fantastic survivability, and yes THAT is gear dependant.

I'm currently running this build.

I'm lvl 69



My gear is a little tweaked up for MF at the moment, but at max I have ~5k DPS with a 265dps claw (thread 562142 with indexer).

I'm looking for ideas on where to go gear wise.

I'm not particularly rich. I have... 1ex, couple chaos. I've been farming cruel ledge with flicker to collect alts to up to fuses.

My primary question is boots.

I'm playing on Domination so Rainbow's have been nerfed. What would be some good boots now? I am saving for Alpha's Howler and Carcass Jack but i need some 4L boots. These boots are pretty good but lack resists.

Today i finally got lucky to have 5l carcass jack with reave+fa+damage on full life+multistrike+conc effect
Before, i had 52 free mana with 2 auras to spam my 28 mana reave and regen mana fast enough, now with conc effect added i have a serious dps buff, but i can't realise it as i can't spam reave which is 48 mana for now o_o it still regens very fast, but i'm not spamming it as before. I guess i need alpha's howl so i can have more mana to spam, can't think about a temporary decision for this, finally temporarily removed conc. effect until i have alpha's howl. May be some ideas? :)

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Dracosan wrote:

I'm currently running this build.

I'm lvl 69

My Current Gear

*chest when not farming lower lvl*

My gear is a little tweaked up for MF at the moment, but at max I have ~5k DPS with a 265dps claw (thread 562142 with indexer).

I'm looking for ideas on where to go gear wise.

I'm not particularly rich. I have... 1ex, couple chaos. I've been farming cruel ledge with flicker to collect alts to up to fuses.

My primary question is boots.

I'm playing on Domination so Rainbow's have been nerfed. What would be some good boots now? I am saving for Alpha's Howler and Carcass Jack but i need some 4L boots. These boots are pretty good but lack resists.

Legacy Rainbowstrides. About 8 exalt.
Or a pair of well itemized ev/es /pure es boots.
The spell block on the Rainbowstrides is cool but it's far from a mandatory piece.
The boots you link there are useless for this build. You're at full life, not low life. And...they're just plain bad :(

i dont think you can get the legacy ones on domination league.

I'll keep my eyes open for some good boots then. These are hard to drop because of the massive str on them tho. already leveled my gems too high >_< easy fix overall tho