Razer Footprints Promotion

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Mr_Meat_Curtain wrote:

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urgetopurge wrote:

Forgive me if I choose not to respond to everything - I neither have the time nor will.

I'll respond to the most contentious point which i feel is the first one.

"Grinding Gear Games strikes me as a company primarily driven by their consumers, by the playerbase, by individual small contributions from the players"
Do you honestly feel that this is enough to pay the entire staff for the years they've put into this game? Do you really value your contribution of what 500$ to be THAT significant that these developers can live and, more importantly, enjoy life off of donations and microtransactions? They put in YEARS and countless hours of effort over this game, a concept which most people here do not seem to comprehend or have forgotten over this sadly misguided rage.

They chose to put in ONE cosmetic, JUST ONE, not change the entire background or include posters of razor in game or have obnoxious pop-up ads or banners on this forum or demand that you MUST sign up on razor's website to play this game, but ONE COSMETIC. ONE. And this compels you to feel saddened to the point of quitting??? A company's desire to make some well-deserved money heavy emphasis on well-deserved, has you so disgusted? if you really respect GGG as much as you claim, then you will bear with the excrutiating, mind-melting, PTSD-inducing pain of having to see a razor logo if it means that this company can continue existing *successfully*.

(also I apologize if you felt insulted by my post; i felt equally disgusted by your blind idealism)

Again, I will respond to your points step-by-step.

1) "Do you honestly feel that this is enough to pay the entire staff for the years they've put into this game? Do you really value your contribution of what 500$ to be THAT significant" No, I do not believe that my single contribution is enough to keep the company viable. But, that's not how this pay model works. The pay model works by accumulating enough small donations from players over time that the company can remain viable as long as individuals keep donating. It's how basically all F2P games with micro-transactions work. I don't see Razer logos in DotA. I was not implying that my single contribution alone is enough to keep GGG viable. I never said that. You essentially took what I said and twisted it, in what appears to be a clear effort at attacking and insulting me (as you have done to others in this thread). I will come back to this.

2) "They put in YEARS and countless hours of effort over this game, a concept which most people here do not seem to comprehend or have forgotten over this sadly misguided rage." I have not forgotten this. In fact, this fact is in part what drives me to respond in this manner. I have always seen PoE as a labor of love, and I am glad that GGG is finally making money off of it. The developers have obviously always been dedicated to their game, and it's this dedication that indicated to me that I had found a good, committed, and (most importantly) understanding company. The last part is important. In this era, we gamers need publishers and developers that understand our wants and needs. The introduction of advertising to the game indicates to me that GGG may be getting away from that - that they may be sliding away from their core.

3) "They chose to put in ONE cosmetic, JUST ONE, not change the entire background or include posters of razor in game or have obnoxious pop-up ads or banners on this forum or demand that you MUST sign up on razor's website to play this game, but ONE COSMETIC. ONE." You continue to miss the point. I understand and recognize that it's "just one." But, what if it's only the first one? What if there are more to come? That's the point. The introduction of the Razer logo is a symbol for what we hope never comes to Path of Exile. What if Logitech wants to keep with Razer in-game? The introduction of the Razer logo is foreshadowing for a corporatized, monetized, billboard of a game. I hope it never comes. The introduction of the Razer logo has some of us questioning what we have been supporting with time and money all along. And that's okay. We have the right to question this. It's healthy for us and for the community to question this move. I'm not blindly ideal. You're blindly defensive.

4) "And this compels you to feel saddened to the point of quitting???" I never said anything about quitting. Read my post again.

5) "A company's desire to make some well-deserved money heavy emphasis on well-deserved," How do you know this is about money? I will quote Chris Wilson from the PoE subreddit: "Deals like this generally don't involve any money changing hands. It's entirely us mentioning each other's products to our respective communities." It's not about the money, and it never has been. It's about product placement inside of a fantasy world.

6) "has you so disgusted? if you really respect GGG as much as you claim, then you will bear with the excrutiating, mind-melting, PTSD-inducing pain of having to see a razor logo if it means that this company can continue existing *successfully*. (also I apologize if you felt insulted by my post; i felt equally disgusted by your blind idealism)" Here you just go on to blatantly attack me. The funny thing is, you don't seem to have any idea what you're actually defending. You claim that deals like this are critical to the ongoing success of GGG as a company. You claim that they need the money that you believe is associated with this deal. Funny thing is, the lead developer has outright stated that no money was involved. But, hey, any excuse to blatantly, offensively, and ragingly attack another player, right? I said I would come back to all of this, and here I am. The tone of your responses is so harsh, so nasty, and filled with such rage, that I can only conclude two possibilities: 1) you're trolling and trying to provoke a reaction. I will not engage in this kind of dialog. 2) you have a personality disorder, and you're unaware of how awful your social interactions are. I will also not continue to engage this. I will, however, let the community judge you. They've clearly judged me - you see all those "+1s" - they're in response to my post.