wayyyyyyy too confusing. Gave me a headache trying to make sense of everything and trying to find the actual passive skill tree among the nested spoiler tags...not using guide.
All party members share the same quantity modifier. Players add their item quantity modifiers together and any modifiers from maps, and each player after the first adds a bonus +50% to the party. Increased item rarity modifiers are only counted from the player who lands the killing blow.
hello, i just read this on the wiki and now i am confused,
so i do understand that the IIR that applied is the one to land the killing blow,
BUT for the IIQ:
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Players add their item quantity modifiers together
this mean if every player has 50% quantity (exemple 3 players) we will have 150% IIQ together?
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and each player after the first adds a bonus +50% to the party.
so if we are 3 in the team, there is 2 more then the first player so we get an other 100% IIQ? (50*2)
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and the total IIQ will be 150+100?=250 IIQ? or did i understand wrong?
Each players adds 50% IIQ on the monsters, not on you. Total 250%. If the culler has 50% then it will be 300%.
Hi there Rathik! Have been following your guide for quite some time. I am now level 70 with this build but I feel that my zombies are still really weak. My main damage source comes from 2 tentacle miscreations and if they die, I take forever to kill anything.
Also my IIR is only at 126% (excluding item rarity gem) and my max es is 4.4k with discipline now with like 170 armour.
My question is, how do I go about increasing my IIR? I see some people posting 200+% IIR and almost 60% IIQ in nemesis but I only can see IIQ coming from perandus blazon.
Well, I'm not the one to officially provide you an answer, but since I've been answered to I'll take the liberty of doing so anyway :).
About your spectre problem I think you should be using Undying Evangelists. Not only do they provide significant aoe damage, but with an Increased Area of Effect support they also boost the survivability of both you and your zombies. And not by a small margin. Oh and they should never die with life leech gem, if something kills them then mostly they kill you too.
Your IIQ/IIR issue is not so simple. You have to keep in mind that for many people their magic find value either works like some kind of a showoff or they want to get into the best possible groups with their "incredible IIQ" for lowered prices. Either way they are listing the best stats they might achieve, including their gems and flasks.
Other than that unfortunately your gearing possibilities in domination are much more restricted than in standard league. Basically as you can't get IIQ on rares, you have to rely on uniques and as you'd get both IIQ and IIR on the same (rare) items on standard, the overall magic find you can get on those slots is going to be less. In practice this usually means that if there is a magic find unique for a certain slot, it is likely BiS.
My piece of advice is to get as much IIQ through uniques as you can: Perandus, Sadima's and Goldwyrm. 1 IIQ is worth about 2,5 IIR and there is no way of getting 75 IIR from boots or 60 from gloves. Also Sadima's is int based so you won't have to waste hundreds of chromatics on coloring your sockets like on Aurseize. Get these items with perfect rolls: they are not much more expensive than crappy ones.
If you have both these items and a decent chest (which you do have), all you have to do is maxing your resistances and you'll be all set. For as low as 6 chaos I managed to buy an Angelic Kite Shield with +14 AR, 240 ES and 30+ lightning and cold res, making me maxed res before purity.
When you have all these done, you can focus on your IIR on your helm and jewellery. On amulets and rings an extremely cheap solution is to wait until you find a white/blue good implicit roll gold ring/amulet and use alterations on it until you get a good IIR roll. You might choose not to even regal it afterwards as you literally need no stats from these other than IIR (well, some +mana or regen doesn't hurt but hey we're not talking about endendgame). Your long term goal is using at least one andvarius - you should have sufficient resistances.
Don't forget to get Divination Distillate. It's awesome and basically free as you can grab one from doing some race leagues. And yes, if you're about to max your IIQ on domination you'll end up with less ES than you would on standard league.
Hi first of all thanks for the input, I'm actually playing nemesis here so I try my best to have as much ES as possible. Do you think it'll greatly decrease my ES if I use all goldwyrm and sadima's touch too? Do I get to run Hatred without being too squishy too?
wayyyyyyy too confusing. Gave me a headache trying to make sense of everything and trying to find the actual passive skill tree among the nested spoiler tags...not using guide.
No one is forcing you to use it.
Almost 400.000 views and you are the only that complains.
I suggest you ask for help in general chat.
Hi I'm so confused about the subsection about storm herald on the first page.
You say to use those resistance items for storm herald, that's great and all but won't those resistances only apply to you? Wouldn't your zombies die regardless of those items or do resistances from your gear apply to zombies?
Or do you mean stack resists so that you don't die and spam skellies?
Hi I'm so confused about the subsection about storm herald on the first page.
You say to use those resistance items for storm herald, that's great and all but won't those resistances only apply to you? Wouldn't your zombies die regardless of those items or do resistances from your gear apply to zombies?
Or do you mean stack resists so that you don't die and spam skellies?
In case you haven't realize it yet, you are playing a summoner.
Other builds cast there direct abilities constantly. So, as a summoner you summon, and you don't even have to do it that often. Instead of casting freezing pulse you are casting minion spells.
Minions are not a one time cast, you constantly need to summon them.
This is why specters based summoners suck, they are tied to a type of monster that is not available in all areas. So they spend there entire session trying to keep them alive or going back and forth to find it.
Hi there Rathik! Have been following your guide for quite some time. I am now level 70 with this build but I feel that my zombies are still really weak. My main damage source comes from 2 tentacle miscreations and if they die, I take forever to kill anything.
Also my IIR is only at 126% (excluding item rarity gem) and my max es is 4.4k with discipline now with like 170 armour.
My question is, how do I go about increasing my IIR? I see some people posting 200+% IIR and almost 60% IIQ in nemesis but I only can see IIQ coming from perandus blazon.
My gear is as follows
Also I'm max resist for all so I'm currently only running clarity and discipline (sometimes using hatred and clarity but that will put me at 3300 es which is risky).
Thanks for your input!
heya, im atm lvl81 in nemesis and xping til ~84 before i switch on my whole mf gear. i am already using divination flask and iir gem and plan to use perandus belt+sadimas. i will take goldwyrm later only if i manage to get a really high ES armour+helmet, otherwise i stick with iir+high es boots(and sadimas>aurseize because sadimas gives you ES and iiq).
First off thank you very much for this amazing guide, it really is the most fun build I've played in a while! (having a lot of fun with conduit supporting my friends in maps)
My one question i have for you, what is your preferred method of making the Divination Distillate effect last?
I'm currently turning off my clarity and spamming curse till they get close to culling HP. Is there any more effective method?
My gear for reference:
IGN CuppingBallsAllDay
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First off thank you very much for this amazing guide, it really is the most fun build I've played in a while! (having a lot of fun with conduit supporting my friends in maps)
My one question i have for you, what is your preferred method of making the Divination Distillate effect last?
I'm currently turning off my clarity and spamming curse till they get close to culling HP. Is there any more effective method?
Okey, I got through normal with ease but when I reached cruel my minions die very fast in the first zone, can't really clear anything in cruel atm. I'm 31 atm.
My current gear. I know its pretty bad and the links aren't ideal but where should I look first to change things up so I could actually kill things. (I got melee splash and spell totem in stash and can use them once I lvl up and can take str note.)
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