[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

Great guide Rathik! Just came back after a 6 month hiatus and your summoner build was were I started on Nemesis. I DID die to Dominus, was my first time trying him ever and having absolute crud gear I feel fine hitting his second phase, the adds seems to pile up and the piercing miscreations were just wasting my minions. Got caught on some of the many adds and that was it.

Going to give it another go trying Scion this time around. I read your leveling guide etc, looks great. Can you comment on whet weapons/skills you might use if you literally do not even have the currency to buy facebreakers etc? from 1-38 in Nemesis I managed to find 2 alchemy orbs lol =/ And of course relying fully on minions is horrid at that level range. Maybe a shiversting + ST? Heck I may just try EK(was using firestom...works fine but it activates so slowly)

Anyhow, thanks. Great summoner guide.
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Teflondon1975 wrote:
Great guide Rathik! Just came back after a 6 month hiatus and your summoner build was were I started on Nemesis. I DID die to Dominus, was my first time trying him ever and having absolute crud gear I feel fine hitting his second phase, the adds seems to pile up and the piercing miscreations were just wasting my minions. Got caught on some of the many adds and that was it.

Going to give it another go trying Scion this time around. I read your leveling guide etc, looks great. Can you comment on whet weapons/skills you might use if you literally do not even have the currency to buy facebreakers etc? from 1-38 in Nemesis I managed to find 2 alchemy orbs lol =/ And of course relying fully on minions is horrid at that level range. Maybe a shiversting + ST? Heck I may just try EK(was using firestom...works fine but it activates so slowly)

Anyhow, thanks. Great summoner guide.

Seriously? 2 alchs?

At those levels anything works, I made a small item list in the leveling section but I can't make an individual list for every spell you can use at starting levels.

And if you are having problem with currency, pick up more unidentified items from ground.
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Rathik2 wrote:

Seriously? 2 alchs?

At those levels anything works, I made a small item list in the leveling section but I can't make an individual list for every spell you can use at starting levels.

And if you are having problem with currency, pick up more unidentified items from ground.


Yeah, bad RNG for sure. I had plenty of small change stuff but opted to save those rather than use them all. Thanks. I have never used EK/ST so I'll just test them both out and see :D
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"Stripper with a strap-on"
Great guide Rathlik, I'm level 82 on domination and still having a blast with it. Additionally to the usual I'd like to thank you for your extended patience on answering all the questions.

I do have two questions for you. First if you're getting lvl 20 zombies from a +2mionion helm, is it possible that you're not getting the +resistance bonuses on your zombies until you actually hit lvl20 on the gem itself? On lvl 19 the resistances are missing from the skill description and I don't see any reason for it.

Secondly, how do you deal with the Villa boss (Exellis Aurafix)? She seems to clear my zombies just as fast as temple piety, sometimes even before I spot her among all the other rares and I see absolutely no way of dealing with her burn damage.

Keep up the good work!
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x3ly wrote:
Great guide Rathlik, I'm level 82 on domination and still having a blast with it. Additionally to the usual I'd like to thank you for your extended patience on answering all the questions.

I do have two questions for you. First if you're getting lvl 20 zombies from a +2mionion helm, is it possible that you're not getting the +resistance bonuses on your zombies until you actually hit lvl20 on the gem itself? On lvl 19 the resistances are missing from the skill description and I don't see any reason for it.

Secondly, how do you deal with the Villa boss (Exellis Aurafix)? She seems to clear my zombies just as fast as temple piety, sometimes even before I spot her among all the other rares and I see absolutely no way of dealing with her burn damage.

Keep up the good work!


As far as I know its consider a level 20 gem so I assume you are getting all the stats.


Villa boss needs 2 things.
Rise of the phoenix shield and purity of fire aura. 87% fire res.
Then just spam non totem skeleton in its face.
Use flasks as needed.
Its a hard boss, to hard for its level to be honest. Take it easy on the map rolls.
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Hi there Rathik! Have been following your guide for quite some time. I am now level 70 with this build but I feel that my zombies are still really weak. My main damage source comes from 2 tentacle miscreations and if they die, I take forever to kill anything.

Also my IIR is only at 126% (excluding item rarity gem) and my max es is 4.4k with discipline now with like 170 armour.

My question is, how do I go about increasing my IIR? I see some people posting 200+% IIR and almost 60% IIQ in nemesis but I only can see IIQ coming from perandus blazon.

My gear is as follows



Also I'm max resist for all so I'm currently only running clarity and discipline (sometimes using hatred and clarity but that will put me at 3300 es which is risky).

Thanks for your input!
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Nyxy wrote:
Hi there Rathik! Have been following your guide for quite some time. I am now level 70 with this build but I feel that my zombies are still really weak. My main damage source comes from 2 tentacle miscreations and if they die, I take forever to kill anything.

Also my IIR is only at 126% (excluding item rarity gem) and my max es is 4.4k with discipline now with like 170 armour.

My question is, how do I go about increasing my IIR? I see some people posting 200+% IIR and almost 60% IIQ in nemesis but I only can see IIQ coming from perandus blazon.


Well, I'm not the one to officially provide you an answer, but since I've been answered to I'll take the liberty of doing so anyway :).

About your spectre problem I think you should be using Undying Evangelists. Not only do they provide significant aoe damage, but with an Increased Area of Effect support they also boost the survivability of both you and your zombies. And not by a small margin. Oh and they should never die with life leech gem, if something kills them then mostly they kill you too.

Your IIQ/IIR issue is not so simple. You have to keep in mind that for many people their magic find value either works like some kind of a showoff or they want to get into the best possible groups with their "incredible IIQ" for lowered prices. Either way they are listing the best stats they might achieve, including their gems and flasks.

Other than that unfortunately your gearing possibilities in domination are much more restricted than in standard league. Basically as you can't get IIQ on rares, you have to rely on uniques and as you'd get both IIQ and IIR on the same (rare) items on standard, the overall magic find you can get on those slots is going to be less. In practice this usually means that if there is a magic find unique for a certain slot, it is likely BiS.

My piece of advice is to get as much IIQ through uniques as you can: Perandus, Sadima's and Goldwyrm. 1 IIQ is worth about 2,5 IIR and there is no way of getting 75 IIR from boots or 60 from gloves. Also Sadima's is int based so you won't have to waste hundreds of chromatics on coloring your sockets like on Aurseize. Get these items with perfect rolls: they are not much more expensive than crappy ones.

If you have both these items and a decent chest (which you do have), all you have to do is maxing your resistances and you'll be all set. For as low as 6 chaos I managed to buy an Angelic Kite Shield with +14 AR, 240 ES and 30+ lightning and cold res, making me maxed res before purity.

When you have all these done, you can focus on your IIR on your helm and jewellery. On amulets and rings an extremely cheap solution is to wait until you find a white/blue good implicit roll gold ring/amulet and use alterations on it until you get a good IIR roll. You might choose not to even regal it afterwards as you literally need no stats from these other than IIR (well, some +mana or regen doesn't hurt but hey we're not talking about endendgame). Your long term goal is using at least one andvarius - you should have sufficient resistances.

Don't forget to get Divination Distillate. It's awesome and basically free as you can grab one from doing some race leagues. And yes, if you're about to max your IIQ on domination you'll end up with less ES than you would on standard league.
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All party members share the same quantity modifier. Players add their item quantity modifiers together and any modifiers from maps, and each player after the first adds a bonus +50% to the party. Increased item rarity modifiers are only counted from the player who lands the killing blow.



hello, i just read this on the wiki and now i am confused,
so i do understand that the IIR that applied is the one to land the killing blow,

BUT for the IIQ:
1-
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Players add their item quantity modifiers together

this mean if every player has 50% quantity (exemple 3 players) we will have 150% IIQ together?

2-
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and each player after the first adds a bonus +50% to the party.

so if we are 3 in the team, there is 2 more then the first player so we get an other 100% IIQ? (50*2)

3-
and the total IIQ will be 150+100?=250 IIQ? or did i understand wrong?
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Last edited by xenochaos1#4153 on Dec 6, 2013, 6:40:44 PM
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x3ly wrote:
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Nyxy wrote:
Hi there Rathik! Have been following your guide for quite some time. I am now level 70 with this build but I feel that my zombies are still really weak. My main damage source comes from 2 tentacle miscreations and if they die, I take forever to kill anything.

Also my IIR is only at 126% (excluding item rarity gem) and my max es is 4.4k with discipline now with like 170 armour.

My question is, how do I go about increasing my IIR? I see some people posting 200+% IIR and almost 60% IIQ in nemesis but I only can see IIQ coming from perandus blazon.


Well, I'm not the one to officially provide you an answer, but since I've been answered to I'll take the liberty of doing so anyway :).

About your spectre problem I think you should be using Undying Evangelists. Not only do they provide significant aoe damage, but with an Increased Area of Effect support they also boost the survivability of both you and your zombies. And not by a small margin. Oh and they should never die with life leech gem, if something kills them then mostly they kill you too.

Your IIQ/IIR issue is not so simple. You have to keep in mind that for many people their magic find value either works like some kind of a showoff or they want to get into the best possible groups with their "incredible IIQ" for lowered prices. Either way they are listing the best stats they might achieve, including their gems and flasks.

Other than that unfortunately your gearing possibilities in domination are much more restricted than in standard league. Basically as you can't get IIQ on rares, you have to rely on uniques and as you'd get both IIQ and IIR on the same (rare) items on standard, the overall magic find you can get on those slots is going to be less. In practice this usually means that if there is a magic find unique for a certain slot, it is likely BiS.

My piece of advice is to get as much IIQ through uniques as you can: Perandus, Sadima's and Goldwyrm. 1 IIQ is worth about 2,5 IIR and there is no way of getting 75 IIR from boots or 60 from gloves. Also Sadima's is int based so you won't have to waste hundreds of chromatics on coloring your sockets like on Aurseize. Get these items with perfect rolls: they are not much more expensive than crappy ones.

If you have both these items and a decent chest (which you do have), all you have to do is maxing your resistances and you'll be all set. For as low as 6 chaos I managed to buy an Angelic Kite Shield with +14 AR, 240 ES and 30+ lightning and cold res, making me maxed res before purity.

When you have all these done, you can focus on your IIR on your helm and jewellery. On amulets and rings an extremely cheap solution is to wait until you find a white/blue good implicit roll gold ring/amulet and use alterations on it until you get a good IIR roll. You might choose not to even regal it afterwards as you literally need no stats from these other than IIR (well, some +mana or regen doesn't hurt but hey we're not talking about endendgame). Your long term goal is using at least one andvarius - you should have sufficient resistances.

Don't forget to get Divination Distillate. It's awesome and basically free as you can grab one from doing some race leagues. And yes, if you're about to max your IIQ on domination you'll end up with less ES than you would on standard league.


Hi first of all thanks for the input, I'm actually playing nemesis here so I try my best to have as much ES as possible. Do you think it'll greatly decrease my ES if I use all goldwyrm and sadima's touch too? Do I get to run Hatred without being too squishy too?

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