Tyr's **0.11.1** Pure Elemental Bow Spec

I don't see a compelling argument to use Infractem. It's worse than DH at AOE DPS, and far worse than a decent rare bow at single target DPS.

On paper, anyway.

Hmmm. I dunno, I've found the 100% chance to Pierce to be quite overpowering. Might sound weird but Infractem with Lesser Projectiles feels like it clears trash a lot faster and the single target DPS is better it seems. Maybe i'm just trippin lol.

But! I think it was Tyr talkin about the Pierce Support Gem having a 100% chance to pierce also with the 2nd Arrow from DH. Not sure if it was confirmed or not.

Whichever it is, I'm using Infractem at the moment until I can get my bow to 5Link (Probably going to take years).

OK so I'm in ac 1 Merciless and getting absolutely hammered. I'm considering switching from EV/ES to AR/ES.
I need to rework my gear in a bad way. Mainly Rings/Gloves/Belt/Quiver. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Should i just skulk back to act III cruel and grind some gear.

Passive tree to this point. I'm planning on picking up the 50% ele damage next


Gear

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Chimbz wrote:

EDIT:
I got this quiver, but lowers my dps by 10 points equipped. I think the 10% attack speed of my unique gives me a better dps boost

This is the old quiver (590.9 dps on LA)

And this is the new one (583.0 dps on LA

This is a borderline example of what I refer to as false positive dps. The added Lightning DMG & Crit Chance is going to be much more effective than 10% ias. Crit DMG % is the worst offender of more or less padding dps numbers. Dont get caught up in the numbers, they do not measure effectiveness.

Get out there and honestly test against difficult content. Pick the one that feels best to you. Apply this mentality towards all gear & keep an open mind. This is how you discover new methods & tricks.

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theidave wrote:

On a side note, I'm finding the Infractem Bow to be pretty powerful. Even if it's just a single arrow or if I use Lesser Projectiles, it'll pretty much rip through anything. Was curious if I should just sell my Death Harp's or keep it.

In CB Infractem was my swap bow for powerful single target. I 5 Linked LA to a % point blank crit chance wed faster attacks and would actually run towards mobs and JIHAD dem bishes. With all the AOE dmg passives LA has a rather large radius around you.

Still cant top a DH tho.

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theidave wrote:

I've been following this build pretty straight and head on. So far I'm loving it and the only issue I have is being squishy despite the fact that I have 2K HP and 900 ES lol. My resists are subpar but mages don't bother me. Mostly melee and I can just kite but after switching one of my HP pots to a Run Speed Pot, that's solved a lot of issues.

None the less, Just wanted to see what you would think of my build so far. I still need some tweaking to do.

Trying to get my bows to 5 Link but that is proving to be very difficult lol. I swear I've gone through at least 100+ Links. Same with my Armor.

On a side note, I'm finding the Infractem Bow to be pretty powerful. Even if it's just a single arrow or if I use Lesser Projectiles, it'll pretty much rip through anything. Was curious if I should just sell my Death Harp's or keep it.

100%+ Chance to Pierce with DH

Made this vid soloing a rare Grotto map at lvl 65. Its beginning to show how strong it can be.

Ah, ok :D

And good news! I just finally 5 Linked my DH. After a messy and countless amount of Fusings T-T lol.

Well i just killed piety in merciless. cheer for me.
Anyway i really think that this build really needs some physical damage boost, i currently have



and no matter what i boost (elements, atk speed ecc) i can gain only 100-200 dps (sitting @ 1800 with elemental hit and 1400 with LA).

Now LA is my main AOE damage and i still havent linked culling strike to it, same goes for EH which is single target.

LA take a % of ur physical damage which in my case is 37 - 105 (from character panel) and convert it to lightning.

Since i got a "short bow" physical is pretty low so i was wondering if i should try to get some passive increase physical damage or try to get a higher dps through Auras (which i already use).

As i said Haste aura is not worth it since thanks to faster attacks i can cast @0.4secs each arrow. I can go down to 0.37 with it gaining 88-100 dps.

Wrath is always up, huge boost and since it's not %mana reserved it's great.
Anger is a bit weaker but still worth it probably.
Hatred is expensive and since it converts physical i still think it's not worth it.

Im suffering a bit of mana regen in party but with warlord's and 2 mana flask i can make it thorugh.

Suggestion?

Firstly great guide. it made me realize i a few dumb mistakes i made in my build, then again i wouldnt have made them if my insomnia hadnt been acting up this past week. i think ive "slept" all of 12 hours the past 5 days. and by "slept" i mean lied down for 3-4 hours before i get up again. Needless to say my brain is half melted. Anyway i suppose what i dont get is why the (to me) HUGE) amount of wasted points getting to the ele damage in templar/sorc area instead of hitting them in shadow/ranger area? it seems to me you have more points left over to spec into hp/res/crit staying a little closer in, with still some nice damage buffs to ele side.

Also the REAL reason for this semi long winded message. do the buff %'s you hit count on auras? if so i could see changing what im now looking at to be my build to accommodate that, because that would just make my damage sickening.

also also why run the cold aura? i find that where i am at currently (around 90% ele damage from gear + a VERY nice 200 ele damage bow(not counting the phys)+ a decent bit of ele damage here or their that i STILL only make around 100-150 damage from turning that aura on. that in fact i get more dps from haste aura(as weak as it is) than from cold aura. and i HAVE tested that every few levels and every major gear change and haste STILL provides a bigger boost by about 20-30 damage every time. (both are same level gem each time as well). obviously when you get rich enough for 2 6L items (the one for your damage comes first imo then auras) you can easily run 4 auras and 2 reduced, and that the haste would be the one i add back in(right now doing evasion anger and wrath(thats the light one right? god im tired)

also i want to note that on my build that im looking at for full(im gonna post both what i have now and what im going to(like is aid i got to respec a few things atm, made a couple dumb moves). Also i feel i should point out that yes ive hit a LOT of ele res nodes and mana % nodes. more than would normally be advisable. ive done this because of the gear choices ive made for early-mid game. Now that im making around gcp+ every 15-20 min of farming as i upgrade my gear to what will be my end game gear some of that will be taken out and respent, especially the mana once i get 2 6L items. this allows me (currently) to run 3 auras while still having a respectable pool to use on my skills without having to give up quantity/rarity for mana. once i start getting my 2 sets of end game gear, one will be high damage quant/rarity, the other true end game, when ive farmed to my hearts content will be pure damage gear.


Oh and final set of questions on gems. ive been told that the elemental hit gem(skill not support) is better DPS wise for bosses than ice shot? also i know you wont agree with my second spell for my aoe, but thats a choice made for my bad computer not for its pure damage output(rain of arrows).

anyway current build:


build im looking at doing:

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maxdd wrote:

Well i just killed piety in merciless. cheer for me.
Anyway i really think that this build really needs some physical damage boost, i currently have

and no matter what i boost (elements, atk speed ecc) i can gain only 100-200 dps (sitting @ 1800 with elemental hit and 1400 with LA).

Now LA is my main AOE damage and i still havent linked culling strike to it, same goes for EH which is single target.

LA take a % of ur physical damage which in my case is 37 - 105 (from character panel) and convert it to lightning.

Since i got a "short bow" physical is pretty low so i was wondering if i should try to get some passive increase physical damage or try to get a higher dps through Auras (which i already use).

As i said Haste aura is not worth it since thanks to faster attacks i can cast @0.4secs each arrow. I can go down to 0.37 with it gaining 88-100 dps.

Wrath is always up, huge boost and since it's not %mana reserved it's great.
Anger is a bit weaker but still worth it probably.
Hatred is expensive and since it converts physical i still think it's not worth it.

Im suffering a bit of mana regen in party but with warlord's and 2 mana flask i can make it thorugh.

Suggestion?

Post your build, that will help us better understand what you have going on. Adding more phys will not support this build. I added a single ring that increased dps by about 100 from the addition of more cold & light dmg instead of wpn ele dmg that was on the previous ring.

OH!

Dont ever test dps in town!!! How could I have forgotten to post that for 6 months...IDK