Shadow - [1.2.0] Dual Claws Are Cool - Forum

" d3s0 wrote: 23k ST, 22k AoE. Personally, I am using Dual Strike + Melee Phys dmg + Multistrike + Faster Attacks for ST and same link with additional Melee Splash for AoE, dps differs by only a tiny 1k. Take note, that I am using Abyssus, not Bringer of Rain atm, but as soon as I can afford to buy one, I will just start using Purity again. tyvm for the info	Posted by skyflash88#5997 on Mar 25, 2014, 9:20:34 AM Quote this Post
I'm curious to see everybody's thoughts on this (similar) build: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBA4cEfgSxBbUMjQzyDUkOSA-rFHUVGhXwGtsbrR4aI_YmlSgqLOkwVDIBNj02QjiWOK05ljpYOrM67T1lPs9AVUp9TGBRR1VLVvpaSFs9W69h4megbXtvV3BydEF31311fyuHGYd2iGuNfY2_kAqSgJVmmVebJp8npcunNKgaqn-quK7PsbOyGbTFtUi3F73mzerPetN-1CPWithp3Q3jhOd06NbrFOuO7UHuDu_w-WP68fzF_rr_kw== The main difference is that instead of going way under the duelist area and grabbing some nice resist all nodes, it focuses instead on grabbing a few key 'prevent stun' and 'prevent chill/frozen' nodes. I have not tried this yet as I'm only lvl 36, but it seems to me that being frozen/stunned is the most deadly thing for Shadow. I used 92 points in order to match yours, but with a few extra I'd probably get phase acrobatics....	Posted by chofmann#2563 on Mar 26, 2014, 6:54:52 PM Quote this Post
I reworked the passive tree a bit and think that this one has potential to be much better. Essentially, it ignores all +Frenzy charges and uses the extra points to grab extra attack speed, damage, and hp. Why? Because frenzy charges only give you +4% AS and +4%evasion per charge (and CS... but who cares about that for this build), and you can pretty much get that permanently instead. I still get Mind Drinker and don't get dodge in order to keep it consistent with the original build. I also use the same number of points. It ends up having about the same amount of hp and resistances with more armor, more evasion, and more dps. Even if you include the +12% AS and + 12% evasion from the 3 extra frenzy charges, I'm pretty sure that it still has more dps and evasion. Furthermore, it branches out into different areas which opens up more options for the remaining 27 points (if you ever get them) including things like Vaal Pact in case you get 2 incredible claws and don't feel like wasting a weapon slot on a relatively low dps bloodseeker. Let me know your thoughts: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBA4cFtQyNDUkOSA-rEdUUdRUgG60eGiP2JpUoKipNLOkwVDB8NJM4ljqzOu09ZT8nQFVHfkp9SshOKlBCUUdT31VLVvpY21pIWz1br2BLYeJjcGVNZ6BtbG17bmlvV3BydEF07XfXeu9_K4PbhNmE74d2jDaNfY2_kAqSgJVmmVebg6IupzSqf6q4rs-xs7TFtUi2QbcXvqfN6tN-1ordDd7253To1usU647tQe4O73rv4-_w_Ev8xf-T	Posted by chofmann#2563 on Apr 5, 2014, 4:03:39 PM Quote this Post
" being frozen/stunned is the most deadly thing for Shadow solved with more HP, although I guess that works too, if you feel it worth the points. Eye of Chayula, Dream Fragments also work. " frenzy charges only give you +4% AS and +4%evasion per charge, and you can pretty much get that permanently instead. Interesting point of view. I'll add that option to the OP. Thank you. How to make a build: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084 Current guides: N/A	Posted by Kirielis#6293 on Apr 6, 2014, 10:34:39 PM Quote this Post
" Kirielis wrote: " being frozen/stunned is the most deadly thing for Shadow solved with more HP, although I guess that works too, if you feel it worth the points. Eye of Chayula, Dream Fragments also work. " frenzy charges only give you +4% AS and +4%evasion per charge, and you can pretty much get that permanently instead. Interesting point of view. I'll add that option to the OP. Thank you. Thanks for updating Kirielis with the possibility of ignoring frenzy charges. Your original post has inspired myself and many others with its excellent and fun build. I hope we can, as a group, continue to build off it.	Posted by chofmann#2563 on Apr 7, 2014, 11:51:30 PM Quote this Post
I don't use claws but just wanted to say the first post made me smile. I love weirdo builds. Minion on crit auramancers are a lot of fun, by the way. Cheers! :)	Posted by feyith#0081 on Apr 8, 2014, 12:39:52 AM Quote this Post
I really enjoyed playing this build with my shadow and now I'm level 58 at standard league. It is my second char, but first one is just a level 50 marauder I failed and gave up playing with. I'm stuck at a1m. I can't even kill a pack of non-elite rhoas because they 2-3 shot me. My damage isn't high either so I don't know how to increase defenses without lowering my already fail dps. I don't have any money(just several chaos and alch) or any item worth something. I thought I'd be able to afford a bloodseeker by the time I hit 62 but even cheapest ones are 2~ ex. How do I progress? I really don't want to start a new char because playing the game over and over again has become tiring, would be nice if someone helped me save this lvl 58 shadow. Gear: (i am not running 3 auras, i switch hatred to grace sometimes) Spoiler My resists are 75/75/58 (in merciless ofc), I have 1750 life and my dual strike dps is 3k without frenzy charges. I was actually about 55 when I hit merciless but I farmed 3 more levels in cruel thinking it would help. It didn't. First zones of a1m are lvl 52 and I can't even do them without dying once in a while. Last edited by shrandis#2367 on Apr 21, 2014, 8:41:57 AM	Posted by shrandis#2367 on Apr 21, 2014, 8:16:21 AM Quote this Post
" shrandis wrote: How do I progress? You have several options: I. Gear up!! Your first claw dps is ~92, the second is 99. I did a quick search on poe.xyz.is and there are 25 claws in standart that: - require lvl 58 or less - deal more than 180 dps - cost 5 chaos or less. Basically you can spend up to 10 chaos and DOUBLE your dps just from claws (and more dps = more leech = more survivability!) Rings and amy with added #-# phys dmg will boost your damage too, also you can get a phys belt, and AS/added phys dmg gloves. Resists aren't that important untill A3 merc, and event most of act 3 can be done without capped resisits (at least with Bloodseeker =D). Try upgrading your claws first - it should be enought to carry you to act3 where you can start farming lunaris/docks for chaos recipe and get Bloodseeker. II. I don't see Multistrike in your links - it's way better than added fire dmg (should get you around 30-40% more dps). Also Melee physical damage get will be better than added fire. III. Try getting a 5-link chest - if going with pure EV build - make sure it alredy has 3red/2green sockets - trying to get 3 red on a pure EV chest is madness. BUT be carefull - your mana leech might not be enought to sustain it and you will need to get more mana leech on gear (no idea if that will be the case - for me 2% from mind drinker was enought) IV. Your claws have no quality!! But don't bother with your current pair, just see p. I. V. For more survivavbility you can also add a CwDT+enduring cry+immortal call+enfeeble/temporal chains/molten shell Hope that helps =) Last edited by skyflash88#5997 on Apr 22, 2014, 1:22:14 AM	Posted by skyflash88#5997 on Apr 22, 2014, 1:10:46 AM Quote this Post
" skyflash88 wrote: " shrandis wrote: How do I progress? You have several options: I. Gear up!! Your first claw dps is ~92, the second is 99. I did a quick search on poe.xyz.is and there are 25 claws in standart that: - require lvl 58 or less - deal more than 180 dps - cost 5 chaos or less. Basically you can spend up to 10 chaos and DOUBLE your dps just from claws (and more dps = more leech = more survivability!) Rings and amy with added #-# phys dmg will boost your damage too, also you can get a phys belt, and AS/added phys dmg gloves. Resists aren't that important untill A3 merc, and event most of act 3 can be done without capped resisits (at least with Bloodseeker =D). Try upgrading your claws first - it should be enought to carry you to act3 where you can start farming lunaris/docks for chaos recipe and get Bloodseeker. II. I don't see Multistrike in your links - it's way better than added fire dmg (should get you around 30-40% more dps). Also Melee physical damage get will be better than added fire. III. Try getting a 5-link chest - if going with pure EV build - make sure it alredy has 3red/2green sockets - trying to get 3 red on a pure EV chest is madness. BUT be carefull - your mana leech might not be enought to sustain it and you will need to get more mana leech on gear (no idea if that will be the case - for me 2% from mind drinker was enought) IV. Your claws have no quality!! But don't bother with your current pair, just see p. I. V. For more survivavbility you can also add a CwDT+enduring cry+immortal call+enfeeble/temporal chains/molten shell Hope that helps =) this is exactly what i would suggest... at lvl 62 my dual strike is not perfect but it is doing over 10k, the cast on damage taken+molten shell enduring cry and immortal call trick really helped at the beginning of merciless as well. before getting that i was dying a lot. also during leveling culling strike+flicker strike are your best friends... and dont forget to stack up your iir+iiq and farm the heck out of ledge merciless.. im still getting a lot of xp there even at lvl 62 and with iir 278+ im getting around 1 or 2 exalts worth of items every ten/twenty minutes (1 full clear < 2mins) so bottom line is get better claws and farm easy maps for $$$ so you can gear yourself better	Posted by ftsforever#2070 on Apr 22, 2014, 9:00:31 AM Quote this Post
" skyflash88 wrote: " shrandis wrote: How do I progress? You have several options: I. Gear up!! Your first claw dps is ~92, the second is 99. I did a quick search on poe.xyz.is and there are 25 claws in standart that: - require lvl 58 or less - deal more than 180 dps - cost 5 chaos or less. Basically you can spend up to 10 chaos and DOUBLE your dps just from claws (and more dps = more leech = more survivability!) Rings and amy with added #-# phys dmg will boost your damage too, also you can get a phys belt, and AS/added phys dmg gloves. Resists aren't that important untill A3 merc, and event most of act 3 can be done without capped resisits (at least with Bloodseeker =D). Try upgrading your claws first - it should be enought to carry you to act3 where you can start farming lunaris/docks for chaos recipe and get Bloodseeker. II. I don't see Multistrike in your links - it's way better than added fire dmg (should get you around 30-40% more dps). Also Melee physical damage get will be better than added fire. III. Try getting a 5-link chest - if going with pure EV build - make sure it alredy has 3red/2green sockets - trying to get 3 red on a pure EV chest is madness. BUT be carefull - your mana leech might not be enought to sustain it and you will need to get more mana leech on gear (no idea if that will be the case - for me 2% from mind drinker was enought) IV. Your claws have no quality!! But don't bother with your current pair, just see p. I. V. For more survivavbility you can also add a CwDT+enduring cry+immortal call+enfeeble/temporal chains/molten shell Hope that helps =) Thanks for taking time to post all these suggestions, but with my current currencies, I can't even do one thing you suggested. I don't have enough sockets/links for all those gems, I don't have most of the gems either. How should I farm so I can afford these stuff? Last edited by shrandis#2367 on Apr 22, 2014, 12:17:50 PM	Posted by shrandis#2367 on Apr 22, 2014, 12:17:04 PM Quote this Post