confirming an IR mechanic

the reason I deleted it is to not spread misinformation.

ok, I actually had it all noted.

It's on my ranger, here's the build.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAQIB4CAnKQbARM8UgyuTXsSEcRJoD8eJS1pBSKVcsKt4cRzEQxDJmmnrKF1HdkezeF7KuKQlXdVJjoH0ddOTV2_cPhbNI5RvjY0zdigTz32eFiZLEvqppJhN4oyfC2qCee3u2N1FzXPvG9xFtVD5FrBidwPF4GszGYXCqe6ZXc2oYW_ZEmIN5bLfmrirveytPYaHXKQcQjqr8ifyQz9-mjrizRRS-QijgYMT_vx_Dqn-59DsKqqvFYXwZSPvSKz9aAlthf0v_FL8hASUgzuelcA-Ud6gr02JaX6WkrJitvQKmBQEH3keRqoNjrT2VeFExjLpcYQpHEhZ_PMDQ4ulo6DOjTEtIjSdMCE6kSL_VFxZFhhhmt9Ksrw6_K662-E=


I have 376 dex and I am level 60

helm has 413 evasion
chest has 727 evasion
gloves have 133 evasion and armour
boots have 170 evasion
230 base evasion from the level + innate evasion
Nothing else has armour or evasion


From the build I have 40% armour and evasion increases and dex should add 75% if it's rounded down.


4460 armour on my character sheet.

The way I do it (without even rounding down the evasion from dex) I get 4455 (I revised and saw that I did it wrong with the gloves).


The gear in question

rest without evasion

not currently using rings as they are on my marauder

I got 4455.696

Only off by 4, which seems easily within rounding error territory

Speculation: it's possible that gear stores fractional amounts of evasion/armour even if it doesn't show it. You'd only need a total of +1.7 evasion from hidden decimals on your gear to reach 4460

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faerwin2 wrote:

4460 armour on my character sheet.

Interesting, I have 4452 by entering your values in my spreadsheet.

I noticed I am also off by exactly 8 on my two melee Rangers with my Iron Reflexes formula:

= (<total_armour * <armour%>)
+ ((50 + <lvl>*3 + <total_evasion>)
* (1 + <eva_nodes_%> + <dex_bonus_eva%> + <armor%>))
+ <moar shield stuff, same logic>



Btw more Evasion info:
Question about Iron Reflexes

Actually this is what makes IR so incredible broken^^.

Armors normally give the same amount of Armor or Evasion.

If I have 100% increased Armor only than wearing normal Armor vs Evasion-Armor would be the same. But since this isn't true, because I always have some %Evasion from Dex IR always makes Evasion Armor stronger than normal Armor and always increases your Armor (one should guess that if you wear full Armor and switch to IR + full Evasion the Armor would stay the same).

So IR is so incredible strong because it applies %Armor and %Evasion, even if only additive. This also makes the Leather & Steel Node incredible powerful, since it is an 48% Armor-Increase and even the minor nodes next to it give 16% Armor, which is still a lot.

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Emphasy wrote:

So IR is so incredible strong because it applies %Armor and %Evasion, even if only additive. This also makes the Leather & Steel Node incredible powerful, since it is an 48% Armor-Increase and even the minor nodes next to it give 16% Armor, which is still a lot.

But you lose Evasion, and remember there are pretty steep diminishing returns in terms of damage reduction as you approach 7500 armor / 50% damage reduction.

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DeF46 wrote:

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Emphasy wrote:

So IR is so incredible strong because it applies %Armor and %Evasion, even if only additive. This also makes the Leather & Steel Node incredible powerful, since it is an 48% Armor-Increase and even the minor nodes next to it give 16% Armor, which is still a lot.

But you lose Evasion, and remember there are pretty steep diminishing returns in terms of damage reduction as you approach 7500 armor / 50% damage reduction.

But actual armour gear has significantly smaller numbers, meaning not only do you have less base, but they don't multiply as well either. It's flat out a broken skill because it makes evasion gear better at armour than armour gear by an obscene amount.