confirming an IR mechanic

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faerwin2 wrote:

You have 1000 base evasion rating.

Your passives and your dex total up for an increase of 120% increased evasion rating.

Your modified evasion rating is now 2200.

Iron reflex convert that modified evasion rating to base armour.

You now have a 2200 base armour.

You have 50% increased armour from passive, your modified armour becomes 3300.

This is not correct. That would turn additive increases to armour and evasion into multiplicative ones.
In the example case, you have 1000 evasion rating, which gives you 1000 armour, increased by increases to both armour and evasion, so 1000 armour with a 170% increase (50% + 120%), giving you 2700 armour.
(If you also had base armour from gear, that would only be affected by the armour increase, not the evasion one, since it's not converted from evasion).

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Zakaluka wrote:

Suppose, as a duelist, I take iron reflexes and wear only pure evasion gear. Pretty standard here. My question is regarding how defensive flasks will interact.

A saturated hallowed life flask of iron skin should double my armour rating while it's healing me. Does a life flask of "reflexes" also double my armour rating? What happens when I have both effects active?

I am imagining this potential situation where a player could get:
- 1x Saturated Life flask of iron skin (saturated for duration)
- 1x Seething life flask (for emergencies)
- 2x Granite flask of Reflexes

And while both Reflexes/Iron Skin are active, you'd have:
Armour = ( Armour x 2 + 10000 ) x 2

That would be super strong. What in this chain doesn't work? Please let me know.

Additive increases do not stack multiplicatively.

the flask mods you are describing do not "double" your respective defences, they apply an additive (60-100)% increase to them. If you have any other increase (and in the iron reflexes case, the other flask is one if both are up) the final rating will not double.

Let's assume you've found a life flask of iron skin with maximum mod value (100% increased armour), and a granite flask (+10000 armour) of reflexes also with maximum mod value (100% increased evasion).
We'll also assume you have a base evasion rating from gear of 2000, and no base armour (since your post specifies pure-evasion). You have iron reflexes, and for the sake of nice round numbers I'll assume you have a total of 100% increased evasion and 50% increased armour from passives.


With no flasks:
2000 evasion
100% increased evasion
50% increased armour
2000 evasion converted to armour, increased by 150% = 5000 armour.


With only life flask of iron skin active:
2000 evasion
100% increased evasion
150% increased armour (50% passives, 100% flask)
2000 evasion converted to armour, increased by 250% = 7000 armour

With only granite flask of reflexes active:
2000 evasion
10000 armour
200% increased evasion (100% passives, 100% flask)
50% increased armour
2000 evasion converted to armour, increased by 250% = 7000 armour
10000 armour increased by 50% = 15000 armour
Total = 22000 armour

With both flasks active:
2000 evasion
10000 armour
200% increased evasion (100% passives, 100% flask)
150% increased armour (50% passives, 100% flask)
2000 evasion converted from armour, increased by 350% = 9000 armour
10000 armour increased by 150% = 25000 armour
Total 34000 armour

Apologies in advance if I screwed up the maths, was doing it all in my head, but this should at least show you how the value is calculated.

All characters start with 53 evasion and gain 3 per level beyond that, so effectively 50 + 3 * level.
In addition, each character starts with a varying amount of dexterity based on class, and gets more from passives/gear, with dex providing increased evasion at a rate of 1% increased evasion for every 5 dex, which makes the numbers rarely as clean as in my example.