[2.4] How to smash Heads. Extremely detailed guide about the Facebreaker gloves and builds!
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Hey KorgothBG,
maybe you could give a small look at my ice crash facebreaker Build :) maybe you have a hint for some tree notes or something else ;) all i want atm, are better rings with life and better facebreaker, with Curse Enemy on hit with Temp Chains or Ele Weakness. But im not sure wich would be better. I think Temp Chains could be better because i have a lot damage and temp chains would help against fast bosses. but maybe ele weakness is so strong, that there is no need for more "defense" ... hmmmm ;) My Builds & Hideouts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2083383 Hideout Community Discord: https://discord.gg/B2xQkmf Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Dralanorr Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/guggelhupf Last edited by guggelhupf#2310 on May 31, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
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Well ... i really can't say more on the matter besides what i've already written in this guide. If you have some more ... specific questions ... to that i can answer :)
As for Fb with a curse on hit - that's nice of course ... but getting well rolled legacy faebreakers which on top of that have a curse on hit is not exactly easy ... or cheap ... and of course you loose the ability to use enchants on your gloves. "I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
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hmm, do u know any good enchantments for facebreaker ? i think curse on hit is stronger
My Builds & Hideouts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2083383
Hideout Community Discord: https://discord.gg/B2xQkmf Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Dralanorr Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/guggelhupf |
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Indeed there isn't a "really" good enchantment that is usable while unarmed but again getting 980%+ facebreakers with curse on hit ... is a difficult task.
"I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
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Hi KorgothBG,
Really sorry to hear the sad day of your lost. I marked this guide before but just started to dig in today. Hopefully, I can get something out in the last several days before Prophecy starts. I am not sure if this is a good build for starting a new HC league, or should I wait till I get some initial captial? Also, I probably go for the frenzy track since I like those green orbs all around. Can you post a modified skill tree for frenzy build, maybe just the final tree? Also, what do you think are the advantages of facebreaker build than other one/two handed melee frenzy build? Well, I wanna be a facebreaking brutal badass in next league anyway... Thanks! |
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Hey Korgoth, thanks for the answer.
About the tree : 1. Yeah, i was thinking abotu it too. I first planned to take the Celerity cluster too, then removed it. I wanted to maximise benefits of Onslaught, but the increased evasion is definitely not enough. If only it was a "more" modifier ^^ I removed it, and I have 6 spare points, i could get back a frenzy charge duration node and the Tireless cluster ? 2. I planned to use a aura heavy setup (I love auras on every character ^^ and i mostly play in small parties) : Hatred - Blasphemy + Enfeeble on a Alpha's Howl, and Grace on an Essence Worm. I would loose those 9-15 physical damages from the ring, but get 3k base evasion, which i find is a good deal given the amount of damages i think i will already have. If I use this setup : https://poe.mikelat.com/#gsvoZ3h/A=fZ.6/9b.ayFh, i could save those points, but it requires Enlighten 4, thus some money ^^ and it force me to cast with life. I don't know if I want to cast with mana, or have to use Blood Magic as a support gem ; I really like flame dash and don't want to have to link it to blood magic support. I'll have to test later. About the advices : 1. this advice has a cost : 2 exalts :D However, it's a really good idea :) i'll try to get my hands on one. for the flasks, i planned to get one "Panick button" "Please spare me" life flask, (Taste Of hate), Jade and Stibnite with some improved duration for high evasion, and maybe Rumi's or the Basalt one you're advising. Is Jade+Stibnite overkill ? I really like the smoke cloud proc on stibnite, works well with evasion. 2. I definitely can't choose an end game armor : here are the one i consider : Daresso's Defiance Kintsugi http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kintsugi Queen of the Forest http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Queen_of_the_Forest Hyrri's Ire http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Hyrri's_Ire Queen of the Forest only give defensive stats, but a lot of them (more life than Daresso's), and also some movement speed for towns and hideouts (I'm confident i'll have more than 11k evasion to get more than a +0% movespeed) Hyrri's Ire gives a lot of evasion, and also slightly more dodge than Daresso's. No life though. I feel like the best one is Kintsugi though : we don't know the mods range yet, but it already have : good evasion (could be better though), some fire res, better life than Daresso's, and the last too lines are great : isn't 20% less damage taken equal to 5 Endurance charges ? If i end up with Daresso's, would it be worth to grab the duelist's extra endurance charge ? life leech is nice but i don't really need onslaught generation. 3. Yeah, i also hate being slow. The feeling when you enter the town in act 3 for the first time ... :D I should consider having those 50% movespeed boots as a swap in towns :D 4. Yep, it will half my block chances. However, regarding block, i like this shield : http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Thousand_Teeth_Temu which has 32% block chance, combined with the +30% block from tree, it's already nice. And if i get a Rumi's decoction, i could reach about 50% real block chance. With Darkray and Acro, i would be almost capped Dodge chances (~60-70%. I feel like this would be my three defences layers : block-dodge-evasion (reinforced by enfeeble and blinding reckoning ?), with enough life to survive one or two hits, then leech and panick flasks :) Ascendancy : I'm planning to get Avatar of the Slaughter indeed : +1 max frenzy and more frenzy scaling will be great, i'm aiming for 9-10 max frenzy charges. However, i don't understand how perma phasing would give me perma onslaught ? I wanted to get Avatar of the Chase for a stronger Onslaught, and also the More chances to evade, which would be great with the rest of the build. My focus for Ascendancy is damage output, as i feel like i already have good defenses. I don't see what would give me the Avatar of the Veil : I already have a lot of dodge, don't really need elemental damage though i will deal some cold damages (should i get the Fangs of Frost cluster ?), and I feel like phasing isn't really interesting. One thing i have noticed is that with the previous uniques I quoted, i will need some elemental resistances as well ! I could grab them from the Scion start, Cloth and Chain, and maybe help Kraitlyn. 7 passive tree points could give me 59%, and some evasion as well. This could be attained by removing Charisma. EDIT : By changing a few things on tree, i can achieve +95% all elemental resistances on tree, then darkray have lightning res, kintsugi fire res, and alpha's howl cold res : i would be barely capped on each one. A final ring/amulet could do the trick. As a final side note : I haven't played much so far (lack of time) and most of my points are highly theoryticals ^^ I love theorycrafting and end-game fantasies, but it will require a lot of time and investment to fulfill it. Thanks forward for your time ! Edit : http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mantra_of_Force If this ever made it to the live servers .... :D Last edited by ValionAlTharion#1866 on May 31, 2016, 9:10:43 PM
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@ValionAlTharion
You know what, good point on the Kintsugi, the only problem being that it is a pure evasion chest, meaning that you need to roll 4 off-color socket which can be enraging ( same goes for Queen of the Forest and Hirry's Ire ). If you pick daresso you could indeed stack some endurance charges, with so much dodge, block and evasion you should have problems with having 6 endurance charges pretty much permanently. I see now why you are using Charisma. In that case by all means use it :) No need for a jade flask if you ask me stinbite is more than enough. Though if i were you it would be hard for me to pick my flasks ... only 5 slots, yet so many awesome things to choose from! Overall i think that you rely a bit too much on evasion, something that is not exactly reliable. Though hopefully the end result might be better than i give it credit. The new Quarz Infusion gives you phasing while at max frenzy charges ( aka always ) and on top of that gives you onslaught while you are phasing so .. yeah. The increased elemental damage works with your hatred and with added fire damage so it's an ok bonus. Of course avatar of the Chase is an option ( one that i wouldn't pick if i were your though ). P.S. Yeah the mantra of force ... when it was first talked about i was strongly against it being introduced in PoE ... it is way too overpowered. @Elegy2004 In my opinion it is a good build to start a new league, yes it requires very specific gear to start, though that gear gets quite cheap quite fast in a new economy. In my opinion the advantages over a 2h build is the X times more survivability and defenses while not really sacrificing damage. As for frenzy .. sure you could use frenzy ( though if you want to use frenzy just because you want frenzy charges ... well ... this build uses Blood Rage so you'll always have max frenzy charges no matter which attack you are using ) The tree could look the same ... just grab 2 extra frenzy charge nodes ... nothing fundamentally different really. And of course if you want something slightly different you could try the ValionAlTharion - it looks good to me ( though i can't guarantee what the results will be, though based on might experience i'd say it will work well ) "I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
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haha yeah, that's a part of the fact i'm mostly theorycrafting so far : it's a problem i've never really encountered :D I will see when I get one ! I find this chest really promising becaus mods range haven't been revealed yet, and thus it can get better than what is on the wiki.
how could i reach a maximum of 6 endurance charges without sacrificing frenzy charges ? I will help Kraitlyn in Merciless, and even though i could easily get the Duelist's +1 end. charge, templar's and marauder's are quite far :/ And if i don't reach 5 max end. charges, Kintsugi is better. Moreover, Kintsugi would apply on spells, against which i already have a lower defense. It's indeed a cruel dilemna ... ^^ Life (1/2) - Jade - Stibnite - Basalt - Quartz - Quicksilver - Rumi's - Taste of Hate - Atziri's and so on ^^ and also an elemental flask in some situation. Yeah, I can expect to die a few times from a hard hit i did not evade, but I won't be playing hardcore, so I don't really mind those deaths. i will do everything I can to maximise the reliability : enfeeble, smoke cloud, reckoning blind on hit, and will see ! I hope to have enough life not to get one shotted by most of the possible attacks, and will surrender to the other with dignity :D If I were to play hardcore, i would probably pick a fully armored fighter with tons of life ^^ I disagree ; it is the opposite, you get phasing while in Onslaught. "You have Phasing while you have Onslaught" quoted from the wiki. Elemental damages would work quite well indeed as I would have Hatred + Added Fire + Taste of hate, but 20% isn't much. 6% and 10% dodge are great, and immunity to status ailment is awesome though. I'll have to test both. If i were to go Avatar of the Chase, i could pick Daresso's for the Onslaught procs. Some last questions : Should i grab fangs of frost ? A bit far, but 8% cold penetration. And should i get my resistances from the tree ? I've heard that it wasn't very point efficient given how easy it is to get them on equipment, but i rely on a lot of uniques. I will post some leveling updates there if there are some people interesting, but i won't have much time to play in the upcoming weeks. Thanks! EDIT : should i get some Reckless Defense (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Reckless_Defence) jewels ? This would help me improving my block, and protect me against spells. Evasion builds don't really fear critical hits. Last edited by ValionAlTharion#1866 on Jun 1, 2016, 9:32:54 PM
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When i talk about endurance charges i was having my own passive tree in mind. So yeah in your case it will be 4 endurance charges with minimum investment - more with more investment of course. So yeah you could go for the Kintsumi - though again on average ( based on the Vorici calculator at least ) it will take at least 1000 chroms for 4 off-colored sockets.
Reckless defense - yeah it's ok, though if something crits you and you take the hit ... you know .. possible one-shot and all that. You are absolutely right for the ascendancy ... i guess that was a wishful reading from my part... so yeah .. definitely go for the avatar of the chase. Fangs of Frost i'd pass no that ... after all cold damage is nothing but a portion of your damage. For the resistances - cap them at all cost. If you can't with your gear - use the passive skill tree. "I'm going to show you pain you never knew existed, you're going to see a whole new spectrum of pain!!!!! Like a RAINBOW!"
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@ValionAlTharion
When i level a new FB-Char in a new league i pick all the resistance notes in the tree. So i only have to look for some life and flat phys on my gear while leveling. And when i am at around lvl 60 i open poe.trade the first time to look for some resistance gear. But thats only me and i really dont like trading that much. And in the beginning its so much cheaper to cap resistance with some points in the tree (and there are a lot good ones near the tree) IGN: Jorgumandr, Ogmios
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