Hey man Im trying to do you build in anarchy and i was wondering since the eye of chalua isnt in anarchy, do you think the build is still viable without going for inner force and spending some of those points on getting unwavering stance? also, how do you stay alive and not take big hits without armor and IR? Im only level 69, but im getting hit pretty hard.. I want to get IR, but in doing so I am worried that my dps will suffer considerably.. I also feel that im going to have mana issues once my LA gem is completely leveled.. Anything I can do to help this? I am wearing atziri's and dream fragments atm to help with mana.. This build is SO much fun and I really want to make it work.. I'm going to link my passive tree and gear (Im debating on purchasing an alphas howl and a high ES titanium shield). Thanks for any advice you can give me! Great build!
EDIT: I forgot, I took that 2% physical Life steal stole node because I don't know how you steal life other than warlords mark? Warlords is ok, but its not as much as I would like. What do you guys do for life steal?
You can use the granite flask for defence.Because your crit chance is high,you can recharge your flask very fast.But this may ruin your fun because you have to use the flask very often.Maybe find an alpha's hawl and use IR is better,you may have to give up some dps node,but I think it's worth.Do u get stunned frequently?If so,u should click that node.
Hey man Im trying to do you build in anarchy and i was wondering since the eye of chalua isnt in anarchy, do you think the build is still viable without going for inner force and spending some of those points on getting unwavering stance? also, how do you stay alive and not take big hits without armor and IR? Im only level 69, but im getting hit pretty hard.. I want to get IR, but in doing so I am worried that my dps will suffer considerably.. I also feel that im going to have mana issues once my LA gem is completely leveled.. Anything I can do to help this? I am wearing atziri's and dream fragments atm to help with mana.. This build is SO much fun and I really want to make it work.. I'm going to link my passive tree and gear (Im debating on purchasing an alphas howl and a high ES titanium shield). Thanks for any advice you can give me! Great build!
EDIT: I forgot, I took that 2% physical Life steal stole node because I don't know how you steal life other than warlords mark? Warlords is ok, but its not as much as I would like. What do you guys do for life steal?
yes yes and yes i did a summery on my ci crit dagger shadow here that i am doing in onslaught. but since you are a bit lazy i will put it here under the spoiler tag. take a look and see how i have made my build, unfortunetly my shadow died lvl 81 so doing another one currency lvl 53 atm but will be back up there again. lucky that i didnt use my gear that im saving up to make my shadow to be able to solo 70+ maps =)
Spoiler
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Makavelit0t0 wrote:
ok guys, since ive seen many people liking this build i was thinking of doing one for ONSLAUGHT league, and it has proven to be REALLY HARD!
at this momenent i have reached level 72 and still have a long road to reach the CI moment i have made some modifications in to invalescos build to be able to survive the changes they did on the leauge, first of i want to give all credits to invalesco for this build. the only thing i did was change it up a bit not much and will now explain some stuff! here we go...
Onslaught League
kaom's heart
eye of chayula
these are removed from the league because all onyx and glorious plates was removed from the league to make it a lot more hard so this meanse that you can get stunlocked a lot more with no eye of chayula. REMEMBER this is hardcore so this is very important because you want to ensure survivabilty, when it comes to softcore its not that important because even with the unique amulet you would still be able to manage quite good but in hardcore no one wants to die!
so as many people said is that this build was not so viable in onslaught because of it, that you can get stunlocked so easy and even frozen but i really dont feel that way, there is ways to overcome these troubles.
So how do we overcome this situation?
pretty easy but hard to get there, Unwavering this is a marauder passive nodes that makes you immunte to stuns but makes you not being able to evade attakcs, that said if you get an attack you cant evade it, you just take the attack straight up (unless you move out of the way before you are hit) and now you are all probably talking about "but if you cant evade, why the hell do we need evasion? then the build is really bad with it!" to be honest no because what you can get in this moment is Iron Reflexes wich converts all your evasion in to pure armor wich with your grace plus your determination togheter with your evasion nodes alone can get you to roughly about 10-11k armor with no big effort or problems.
and after explaining all this mostly of you are thinking "getting all over there is really quite a problem" yes it is you have to sacrifice some things just to get there and you have to reach level 80 before you switch to CI. so what im gonna do now is show you how the tree will look like invalesco crit armor
remember you wont need vaal pact until you hit level 85-88ish, until then i suggest you dont go in maps with the mod reflect dmg, otherwise you can reflect dmg wont do much to you with lightning strike(dont try to double-strike reflecting mobs, 1 crit can kill you)
so to show you people what i have accumilated so far by farming and flipping items, this is what i have gotten so far
Spoiler
as you can see im still missing some important items, that said is Alpha howl (if you have it, you wont need dream fragment (if you are going for a better helm by switching helm for auras you can use dream fragments)
but to end this big post i want you all to know i have still 8 levels to level to get to level 80 to be safe and start doing some maps (yes it gets boring just to level, but i know it will be worth it in the end)
I hope this will be helpful for people on onslaught and i hope that invalesco takes a look at this and can come with some feedback! (ofc everyone is more then welcomed to give some feedback)
Hey man Im trying to do you build in anarchy and i was wondering since the eye of chalua isnt in anarchy, do you think the build is still viable without going for inner force and spending some of those points on getting unwavering stance? also, how do you stay alive and not take big hits without armor and IR? Im only level 69, but im getting hit pretty hard.. I want to get IR, but in doing so I am worried that my dps will suffer considerably.. I also feel that im going to have mana issues once my LA gem is completely leveled.. Anything I can do to help this? I am wearing atziri's and dream fragments atm to help with mana.. This build is SO much fun and I really want to make it work.. I'm going to link my passive tree and gear (Im debating on purchasing an alphas howl and a high ES titanium shield). Thanks for any advice you can give me! Great build!
EDIT: I forgot, I took that 2% physical Life steal stole node because I don't know how you steal life other than warlords mark? Warlords is ok, but its not as much as I would like. What do you guys do for life steal?
yes yes and yes i did a summery on my ci crit dagger shadow here that i am doing in onslaught. but since you are a bit lazy i will put it here under the spoiler tag. take a look and see how i have made my build, unfortunetly my shadow died lvl 81 so doing another one currency lvl 53 atm but will be back up there again. lucky that i didnt use my gear that im saving up to make my shadow to be able to solo 70+ maps =)
Spoiler
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Makavelit0t0 wrote:
ok guys, since ive seen many people liking this build i was thinking of doing one for ONSLAUGHT league, and it has proven to be REALLY HARD!
at this momenent i have reached level 72 and still have a long road to reach the CI moment i have made some modifications in to invalescos build to be able to survive the changes they did on the leauge, first of i want to give all credits to invalesco for this build. the only thing i did was change it up a bit not much and will now explain some stuff! here we go...
Onslaught League
kaom's heart
eye of chayula
these are removed from the league because all onyx and glorious plates was removed from the league to make it a lot more hard so this meanse that you can get stunlocked a lot more with no eye of chayula. REMEMBER this is hardcore so this is very important because you want to ensure survivabilty, when it comes to softcore its not that important because even with the unique amulet you would still be able to manage quite good but in hardcore no one wants to die!
so as many people said is that this build was not so viable in onslaught because of it, that you can get stunlocked so easy and even frozen but i really dont feel that way, there is ways to overcome these troubles.
So how do we overcome this situation?
pretty easy but hard to get there, Unwavering this is a marauder passive nodes that makes you immunte to stuns but makes you not being able to evade attakcs, that said if you get an attack you cant evade it, you just take the attack straight up (unless you move out of the way before you are hit) and now you are all probably talking about "but if you cant evade, why the hell do we need evasion? then the build is really bad with it!" to be honest no because what you can get in this moment is Iron Reflexes wich converts all your evasion in to pure armor wich with your grace plus your determination togheter with your evasion nodes alone can get you to roughly about 10-11k armor with no big effort or problems.
and after explaining all this mostly of you are thinking "getting all over there is really quite a problem" yes it is you have to sacrifice some things just to get there and you have to reach level 80 before you switch to CI. so what im gonna do now is show you how the tree will look like invalesco crit armor
remember you wont need vaal pact until you hit level 85-88ish, until then i suggest you dont go in maps with the mod reflect dmg, otherwise you can reflect dmg wont do much to you with lightning strike(dont try to double-strike reflecting mobs, 1 crit can kill you)
so to show you people what i have accumilated so far by farming and flipping items, this is what i have gotten so far
Spoiler
as you can see im still missing some important items, that said is Alpha howl (if you have it, you wont need dream fragment (if you are going for a better helm by switching helm for auras you can use dream fragments)
but to end this big post i want you all to know i have still 8 levels to level to get to level 80 to be safe and start doing some maps (yes it gets boring just to level, but i know it will be worth it in the end)
I hope this will be helpful for people on onslaught and i hope that invalesco takes a look at this and can come with some feedback! (ofc everyone is more then welcomed to give some feedback)
and as for the build there called "invalesco crit armor" that is a bit outdated imo that i made so go after this one instead new build
i use a 34% block chance titanium, instead of vaal pact and inner force would you consider this build just as viable to your lvl 92 skill tree, focusing more on block/physical dmg.
btw i should add i play Hardcore, lvl 72 atm with 7001 ES with vaalpact and inner force, so removing them would give me a little drop in ES and that LL but i still have 22% worth of ES/ev nodes to pick up.
i also have my LS 4 linked and my DS 5 linked, eventually 6 linked as my roll in party's is more for picking off priority mobs,totems, boss's.
Only reason im contemplating this is because of the recent skill tree changes to ranger adding some very nice Nodes to the tree that would benefit this build that were not there before.
IGN: Blackroset
Last edited by Dunnzo#3003 on Aug 4, 2013, 12:38:00 AM
i use a 34% block chance titanium, instead of vaal pact and inner force would you consider this build just as viable to your lvl 92 skill tree, focusing more on block/physical dmg.
btw i should add i play Hardcore, lvl 72 atm with 7001 ES with vaalpact and inner force, so removing them would give me a little drop in ES and that LL but i still have 22% worth of ES/ev nodes to pick up.
i also have my LS 4 linked and my DS 5 linked, eventually 6 linked as my roll in party's is more for picking off priority mobs,totems, boss's.
tbh its about taste and what you feel like going but vaal pact is madatory you will rip really soon because of not going vaal pact, because u wont leeech in a instant instead overtime and will sooner or later die because of it, and no my skilltree is not from a lvl 92 shadow its from a lvl 80 shadow and i always specc ci at lvl 75 wich i get from docks by farming again and again =)
Only reason im contemplating this is because of the recent skill tree changes to ranger adding some very nice Nodes to the tree that would benefit this build that were not there before.
i use a 34% block chance titanium, instead of vaal pact and inner force would you consider this build just as viable to your lvl 92 skill tree, focusing more on block/physical dmg.
btw i should add i play Hardcore, lvl 72 atm with 7001 ES with vaalpact and inner force, so removing them would give me a little drop in ES and that LL but i still have 22% worth of ES/ev nodes to pick up.
i also have my LS 4 linked and my DS 5 linked, eventually 6 linked as my roll in party's is more for picking off priority mobs,totems, boss's.
tbh its about taste and what you feel like going but vaal pact is madatory you will rip really soon because of not going vaal pact, because u wont leeech in a instant instead overtime and will sooner or later die because of it, and no my skilltree is not from a lvl 92 shadow its from a lvl 80 shadow and i always specc ci at lvl 75 wich i get from docks by farming again and again =)
Only reason im contemplating this is because of the recent skill tree changes to ranger adding some very nice Nodes to the tree that would benefit this build that were not there before.
Your reply was in my quote, but after re thinking the build. I will have to do some testing without vaal pact, would possibly have to use a 6L with Life leech 20% if it was required for faster leech w/o Vaal (LL on CI is 1/3 of ES if im correct) meaning my 6L eventually would be Double Strike, Faster Attacks, Mele physical dmg, Mele dmg on full life, Life leech and power charge on critical. The chromes for this tho would be within the hundreds to thousands. Defenitly not somthing i will be looking at till the Late 80's
But this build would defenitly be not for diving into aoe packs but specifically for picking off priority mobs and bursting them boss's.
Also only bonus i could see coming from this defensive wise would be by obtaining the crazy extra block nodes and possibly running Tempest sheild while using Rainbow striders my chance to block spells would also get a flat increase as well as my physical block to help mitigate the non instant leech from VP
Build wise it gains:
Pro's
40% Extar phys dmg
27% Faster attack speed
18% Bonus block Chance
50% extra defensive from Equipped shield
100% increased critical strike multiplier (could also drop the 4 points of 70% multi nodes for the 4 phys dmg nodes for a bonus 50% extra physical dmg)
50% increased Crit chance
Cons's
No VP
No inner force
less ES/ES recovery depending on which build you take from invelesco's 92ish skill trees. (im Already Rocking 7.5+ ES atm with more to come once i get a better chest, so not too worried just yet)
IGN: Blackroset
Last edited by Dunnzo#3003 on Aug 4, 2013, 9:49:56 PM
i use a 34% block chance titanium, instead of vaal pact and inner force would you consider this build just as viable to your lvl 92 skill tree, focusing more on block/physical dmg.
btw i should add i play Hardcore, lvl 72 atm with 7001 ES with vaalpact and inner force, so removing them would give me a little drop in ES and that LL but i still have 22% worth of ES/ev nodes to pick up.
i also have my LS 4 linked and my DS 5 linked, eventually 6 linked as my roll in party's is more for picking off priority mobs,totems, boss's.
tbh its about taste and what you feel like going but vaal pact is madatory you will rip really soon because of not going vaal pact, because u wont leeech in a instant instead overtime and will sooner or later die because of it, and no my skilltree is not from a lvl 92 shadow its from a lvl 80 shadow and i always specc ci at lvl 75 wich i get from docks by farming again and again =)
Only reason im contemplating this is because of the recent skill tree changes to ranger adding some very nice Nodes to the tree that would benefit this build that were not there before.
Your reply was in my quote, but after re thinking the build. I will have to do some testing without vaal pact, would possibly have to use a 6L with Life leech 20% if it was required for faster leech w/o Vaal (LL on CI is 1/3 of ES if im correct) meaning my 6L eventually would be Double Strike, Faster Attacks, Mele physical dmg, Mele dmg on full life, Life leech and power charge on critical. The chromes for this tho would be within the hundreds to thousands. Defenitly not somthing i will be looking at till the Late 80's
But this build would defenitly be not for diving into aoe packs but specifically for picking off priority mobs and bursting them boss's.
Also only bonus i could see coming from this defensive wise would be by obtaining the crazy extra block nodes and possibly running Tempest sheild while using Rainbow striders my chance to block spells would also get a flat increase as well as my physical block to help mitigate the non instant leech from VP
Build wise it gains:
Pro's
40% Extar phys dmg
27% Faster attack speed
18% Bonus block Chance
50% extra defensive from Equipped shield
100% increased critical strike multiplier (could also drop the 4 points of 70% multi nodes for the 4 phys dmg nodes for a bonus 50% extra physical dmg)
50% increased Crit chance
Cons's
No VP
No inner force
less ES/ES recovery depending on which build you take from invelesco's 92ish skill trees. (im Already Rocking 7.5+ ES atm with more to come once i get a better chest, so not too worried just yet)
if you are gonna 6link double strike why no melee splash? or are you thinking about melee every single one and no aoe for big packs? this looks to sketchy you will not make it like that and wasting 1 socket for life leech seems a bit stupid, well do what you feel like but you are gonna rip if no vaal pact
if you are gonna 6link double strike why no melee splash? or are you thinking about melee every single one and no aoe for big packs? this looks to sketchy you will not make it like that and wasting 1 socket for life leech seems a bit stupid, well do what you feel like but you are gonna rip if no vaal pact
Because every man and his dog runs super high AOE dps and if you had read what i said correctly which you did not, i had said the build was purely made for focusing down priority targets and boss's, such as titty bitchs,Acid bombers, Arc mages, Necros, totems etc etc. and i currently run a 5L DS with 25k+ dps and a 4L LS with 17k dps. So yes i would and will have my DS in my 5/6L for bursting boss's and my LS in my 4L to assist with AOE packs
And amusing ill rip cause no vaalapct is Naive and ignorant. Your saying every build out that that doesn't have Vaalpact reeps? people who life leech non instantly will Reep? No i dont think so, i think your totally missing the point of the build that it lose's VP but gains super high Block Chance and More EV on an already Super High ES Character.
Let me guess your a Dual Strike mele splash multi strike Duelist? If so its no surprise there were i can see were your ignorense is coming from and further discussing this topic with someone of such a closed mind who follows the flavor of the month will go no where.
