[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

Is this build viable with a 2hand sword instead? I just prefer how 2handers look, but I know i need some strength for 2hands. will this be a problem?

Also, I'm thinking about also depending on Tricorne, because it will allow me to never be shocked, which, i think is vital to any melee build.
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How is this build with reflect mobs can i please get a answer & how can you avoid getting one shot from criting a reflect mob. thx
you should plz try to read the guide beforehand then starting asking question on what you should do, pretty much what invalesco has wroten has been covered, even i covered it in a recent post here on page 124 i think.

there i explaine how i got through merciless. and as a riminder for other people again thinking that this isnt viable and its a waste of time, check again, im doing this build on HC and im lvl 71 atm in act3 atm and havent even specced to CI yet because of the lack of CI gear

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/42623/page/124


and my gear, its not that great either
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Last edited by Makavelit0t0#1129 on Feb 27, 2013, 5:39:31 AM
I don't know if this has been answered before (if so I didn't find it)...

What I understand so far:
- life-leech is capped at 20% max-life/second.
- while using CI the game uses max-life as if the player doesn't have CI to determine:
.....(1) elemental status effects (stun/burn/freeze/shock)
.....(2) life leech cap (20% of max-life per second)
- GR converts leeched life to ES (leech is still capped based on max-life)

I'm wondering if the combination of CI & GR is useless without VP? Life nodes and life mods on gear are useless for CI users but without these the leech cap is very low as well. This is unless the combination of CI & GR uses max-ES to calculate max-leech.

Can someone please clarify the mechanics of the combination of CI & GR?
Unfortunately I didn't get proof or a satisfying answer in my own thread.

Last edited by fae76#3960 on Feb 27, 2013, 7:14:40 AM
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fae76 wrote:
I don't know if this has been answered before (if so I didn't find it)...

What I understand so far:
- life-leech is capped at 20% max-life/second.
- while using CI the game uses max-life as if the player doesn't have CI to determine:
.....(1) elemental status effects (stun/burn/freeze/shock)
.....(2) life leech cap (20% of max-life per second)
- GR converts leeched life to ES (leech is still capped based on max-life)

I'm wondering if the combination of CI & GR is useless without VP? Life nodes and life mods on gear are useless for CI users but without these the leech cap is very low as well. This is unless the combination of CI & GR uses max-ES to calculate max-leech.

Can someone pleas clarify the mechanics of the combination of CI & GR?
Unfortunately I didn't get proof or a satisfying answer in my own thread?



that is indeed a qood question i dont know either how it works just that VP is instant on life-leech and boost your survivabilty a lot
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I'm lvl 52 in A3 Cruel and am finding this build boarder-line unplayable. I die in 2-3 hits and basically am relying completely on grace to avoid dmg all-together. I've read countless pages of this topic and been following the advice here close as possible. I've been stacking armor/Evas - being lucky with grace is the only thing keeping me alive.

My Stats:
HP: 1223
Armor: 395 (11% dmg reduction)
Evas: 2751 (38% chance to evade)
Fire/Cold/Lightening: %45/59/18 - I have cold ring to for 50% to throw on when i need it.

My DPS is about the only thing thats decent: 1500DPS /w Dual Strike Daggar/Claw. I survive (if at all) by dealing massive burst dps on mobs before they can kill me. A shield hardly does me any good. I basically still have to fight as if I dont have any tank. I die frequently and cannot progress or lvl up.

Before you tell me my gear is bad - everything I'm wearing provides armor except for my chest which gives me 550 Evas. If I'm wearing something that doesnt give me more HP, its because its giving me resistance.

Please tell me what I'm doing wrong here.
Thank you Makaveli and everyone who helped me to answer the questions posed here! Currently busy with some uni stuff but did the random pop by today and will answer some questions.

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MarryJanex wrote:
How is this build with reflect mobs can i please get a answer & how can you avoid getting one shot from criting a reflect mob. thx


Vaal pact is the answer. Read below to understand more

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fae76 wrote:
I don't know if this has been answered before (if so I didn't find it)...

What I understand so far:
- life-leech is capped at 20% max-life/second.
- while using CI the game uses max-life as if the player doesn't have CI to determine:
.....(1) elemental status effects (stun/burn/freeze/shock)
.....(2) life leech cap (20% of max-life per second)
- GR converts leeched life to ES (leech is still capped based on max-life)

I'm wondering if the combination of CI & GR is useless without VP? Life nodes and life mods on gear are useless for CI users but without these the leech cap is very low as well. This is unless the combination of CI & GR uses max-ES to calculate max-leech.

Can someone please clarify the mechanics of the combination of CI & GR?
Unfortunately I didn't get proof or a satisfying answer in my own thread.



When you use GR, ES Leech is no longer capped based on max HP but is instead capped based on your max ES. The question of whether CI + GR would still be highly useful without Vaal Pact is subjective as it very much depends on the balance between your maximum ES and your damage output.

Basically, the higher your ES and the lower your DPS, the more irrelevant VP becomes. On the other-hand, the lower your ES and the higher your DPS, the more useful VP becomes. CI + GR would still be very useful of course even without VP but I chose VP for this build for a few reasons.

1. I don't expect any of you guys to be able to achieve anything like 7k ES and above now that godly ES gear is much harder to achieve. I would consider 6k ES to be pretty much top-tier as it is.

2. This build is meant to use offense as the best defense. The lowering of ES values that players can achieve now means that defensive-wise, your damage buffer has been decreased. However, offensive wise, this build has not been affected. Because of the high damage output of this build and the lower damage buffer that it has (due to CI and ES nerf in general), the worst enemy of this build will be reflect damage. If you crit, you can basically one shot yourself. Vaal Pact is meant to solve that problem.

I'm not too sure about the damage reflected by reflect mobs but I'm lead to believe that it's about 20%.

Now, let's say you have 6k maximum ES and deal a crit of about 50k Damage on a reflect rare.
You have 3 endurance charges up but don't have a granite flask up, giving you about 15% flat damage reduction. Let's say that your blood rage gives you 10% life leech due to quality + Inner Force and warlord's mark gives you 4% for a total of 14% life leech.

Non-Vaal Pact Scenario
You get 10k damage reflected back to you which after 15% damage reduction is about 8500. Your ES leech is 14% of 50k which is 7000. However, your ES leech is capped at 20% of your max ES which is 1200 per second. Reflect damage is instant.

End-result: You get reflected for about 8500 damage. The amount you leech back is about 1200 per second, which is only about 12 ES leeched back per millisecond (i'm just assuming that 1 millisecond is considered instant, I don't know the exact details. 8500 damage - 12 = 8488 = you've died due to reflect.

Vaal Pact Scenario
You get 10k damage reflected back to you which after 15% damage reduction is about 8500. Your ES leech is 14% of 50k which is 7000. Your ES leech is instant and is not capped. Reflect damage is instant.

End-result: You get reflected for about 8500 damage. The amount you leech back is 7000. 8500 damage - 7000 = 1500 damage which is <6000 ES. You don't die due to reflect.

@Azrael_Reborn - Your HP of 1223 is rather low. I generally have 2000 HP and 1000 ES by Level 54. Other than that, the only other issue I can then think of is that your gameplay style might not be suitable. Try not to tank mobs and kite them instead.
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Azrael_Reborn wrote:

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My Stats:
HP: 1223
Armor: 395 (11% dmg reduction)
Evas: 2751 (38% chance to evade)
Fire/Cold/Lightening: %45/59/18 - I have cold ring to for 50% to throw on when i need it.
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Please tell me what I'm doing wrong here.


What kills you? If it's elemental damage, you really should raise those resist to max. If it's physical skeleton archers, you need distractions, mainly skeletons. Use totem with summon skeletons when encountering lots of ranged monsters.

What is your playstyle? I suggest shooting Lightning Strike from a distance. Whenever something is coming near, use Whirling Blades to escape (I suggest high APS weapon and Faster Attacks gem to whirl even faster).

Fastest way for me to gain exp is to join a party. It's extremely safe because others can tank or summon skeletons to tank. Nevertheless I have soloed a lot of Ledge/Fellshrine/Docks too.

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