I was thinking about that earlier - dual wield w/1 bloodseeker and 1 non. You have me convinced to at least plan the tree and see how well it coincides wtih the Vaal Pact one b4 I have to choose...
I'll try to upload a vid later with this build to see it in action.
I had Vaal Pact before, dpopped it and went Bloodseekers + a standard high phys dps claw.
You won't even notice the diference in LL and it'll save a LOT of passive points.
Even with 1k HP, 0 resists and full IIR+IIQ can farm Docks in like 2 minutes.
Works like a charm if your goal is purely farming for currency
Since I play a lot, I have found some decent drops, so I have magilaros, the blood dance, and rainbowstrides - just missing the others. And I can spend an exalt or so without too much problem (I even have a pure one in my stash since it dropped last week to my astonishment)
My witch gear is below - don't want to hijack the thread w/witch stuff (boo hiss) but I am happy to talk about spec/gearing if you want (GMP Incinerate + Arctic Armour)
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She is Eldritch Battery with about 3500 mana and 2000 hp and Vaal Pact. Faceroll maps up to 70 (haven't been able to get higher yet but should be no problem) and I facetank Kole and twinned Brutus bosses on the Dungeon map w/o problem.
I bought my wand for 1 alch (small dps upgrade) and my shield for 1 alch (sidegrade for dps over resists) - other than that, everything is self-found. And I do chaos maps easily with about 60% chaos res (different rings/belt) despite Vaal Pact - you just can't stand around picking your nose; the only map I can't do is Blood Magic b/c it renders Arctic Armour unplayable.
Glutton - I hear ya with the templar/marauder zone, but I have those already :) Really want to try a shadow-based flicker claw (and he's already at lvl 28 since I'm leveling with friends)
I keep looking at the tree thinking there has to be a way.... Since I'm in the low right corner already, I could dual wield for an extra 125% crit chance . . . but give up about 10% block and the defensive stats on a shield (and have to find another good 1h). And I can't add to my tree without taking away somewhere else, and there was nothing that said "I'm not needed, take me".
The only part of my tree that I'm relatively unhappy with are the evasion/ES nodes. Taking all those nodes just to get a little ES gear to turn in to Mana seems like a significant waste. It makes sense on my witch since she can't leech with fire (unless I waste a socket on it) so she needs the mana to generate 350 mana regen/sec to cover her costs.
With this build and a 2000 mana pool, I will be regenning about 89 mana/sec with a lvl 20 Clarity, and leeching 250 mana/sec, for a total of about 340 mana/sec. That should cover any costs, but again, it seems like I'm taking an awful lot of ES nodes to push my Mana pool up to 2K so I can get my 12.5% mana leech high enough. They all come with 8% evasion, so its not the end of the world, but I'd love to find a better solution.
Tref
Ok i chancged your build usig the esact same points with bloodseeker in mind.I removed vaal pact,eldrich battery,some evasion+ES and claw nods.With this build u will have much more life and life regeneration(to stack with blood dance),1 extra frenzy(15% increased attacks speed +1% life lregeneration),Much more attack speed,70% increase multiplier,increase melee range and only 7% less physical damage which is insignificant.So this way u ll have much more DPS and life and more resistances(took the 12% to all elemental).To manage your mana i took the mana+mana regen on the duelist area + 15mana gained on kill.End game with flicker and melee splash your DPS will be so high that u will 1-2 shot packs of mobs,so with mana leech capped,some regeneration and 15 mana on kill i dont think u ll ever face mana issues.
So I got a chest yesterday, and am pretty excited. I am on Anarchy BTW. I have to go all the way down to US, so I still have bad DPS, but its getting better now, as I level and get more crit nodes.
This is my dagger. I got it at 56 for 2 GCP as a temporary dagger. I am still using it. I haven't found much better on Anarchy for anything reasonable.
This is the chest. I run Flicker-Melee on Full-Melee Physical-Multi-Crit Damage-Added Fire or Melee Splash depending on what I need.
I am one-shotting most trash now so I suppose it is high enough. I have a new problem now, and want some advice on what you guys do to solve it.
Foing from a 5L to a 6L made me unable to constantly flicker. My 6L flicker strike costs 77 mana per use with Added fire and 95 for Melee Splash. I have only 540 mana. I have 2% mana leech. I run out of mana quickly. A couple flickers and stuff is dead, but on big mobs I have to pause, which can be deadly.
What do you guys do? Anyone have a solution? I already damage enough to reach the max 12.5% mana leech per second, so after a short pause I have more mana, but the only solution I can think of is to get more max mana.
How much mana do all of you have?
I d reccomend to to increase your maximum mana and stack some mana regeneration on your gear.Then it is the gameplay.You shouldnt be perma flickering,not only for mana issues but also to check around for reflect mobs and prevent desync.At least with my connection,more than 3 flickers in a row is a certain desync.If u still face mana problems,u can take the mana on kill nods,either the ones on your way to vaal pact,or the ones in the duelist area.This way u ll never face problems again.
Well, you've inspired me enough to start anyway. My goal is probably a little more than farming, but a little less than 77 maps. I have plenty of survivable-based toons. I want one that does CRAZY dps :) So I had an idea . . .
One of the big problems I read about in the thread was mana usage, esp with melee splash and high aps wpns. Blood magic, as you mentioned solves that. But it takes up a socket and throttles our dps, esp. if we only have a 5L. Eldritch Battery solves that, and then some, but is only available to HP based builds. I think my goal is to dual wield, stack attack speed and support it with Eldritch Battery. I may change my mind over the next week, but below is the relatively low HP, high attack speed/dmg build I'll start to build.
It's funny how noone has commented on OP's name!
I'll make a toon called "papari" to play duo with! (just kiddin :P)
On topic now! I've made a build based on this using claws, mainly for farming purposes,though i didn't go CI. As i mad scientist i needed to experiment!
Pros: I found out that by using Bloodseeker + a high phys dps claw i could drop Vaal pact without losing my instant regen and also keep dps fairly high by spending all those points on more offensive passives.
The LL is ridiculy high while keeping flicker strike+melee splash on the 50k+ mark fully stacked.
This is a HP build so i cap all my mana with auras and link my flicker with bloodmagic thus removing any mana problems.
Wide area maps are perma-flicker friendly
You can easily counter hp degen from bloodrage by using the blood dance boots.
Cons: Obviously you get lower dps in comparison with a dagger build
HP is harder to get than ES. Still i could farm maps up to lvl70 maps VERY easily with 2,5k hp
To use bloodmagic you need a 6L if you want to keep your dps high. You can easily use tabula rasa up to lunaris, but you are gonna need a decent 6L to farm maps
Since it's dual weld you lose nice stats from the shield that MUST be replaced by GG rings + belt to keep your resists maxed
You are gonna CRY if you try to perma flicker on closed area maps :D
This ofc is only softcore friendly since any mistake, low reaction time, desync etc will get you insta-killed. But hey, i farmed the gear for all my toons using this one!
Docks and City of Sarn are ideal places to farm since you can:
Almost drop all your resists for high IIR+IIQ and still pwn tha map in like 1minute
Just hold down right mouse button while drinking coffee :D
Loot, rinse n repeat! Its so fast and i actually get some fantastic legendaries even from CoS selling for 1-2ex like rainbow strides, Aegis aurora etc
If you wanna go crazy on loot drop EVERYTHING as low as 1k hp and 0 resists and farm CoS for currency. Map is getting yellow from tha drops :P
Now on Mr. Poutsos build! I got a CI+dagger shadow currently lvl73, fully geared on OPs specs. And was thinking to try dropping Vaal pact again and try Zealot's oath + The blood dance boots for an insane es regen while keeping the LL high. Obviously i'll run into problems on 50% reduced regen maps but meh....Has anyone tried this? Any thoughts?!
Hey dementia nice post over there.Nobody commented on my name since nobody else is greek :D.Nice build with dual claws.My cousins ranger at the moment is a dual weilder using bloodseeker and my prepvious dagger with high enough DPS and 2.5 HP and it is working pretty good at the moment.I think the build Trefen is building with bloodseeker plus shield will be better for higher maps.lower DPS but much higher Hp and regen
As for zealots oath + blood dance,i ve thought of it,but i decided that it isnt worth it,since u know diamond flask + flicker = certain instant full ES recovery
Hey dementia nice post over there.Nobody commented on my name since nobody else is greek :D.Nice build with dual claws.My cousins ranger at the moment is a dual weilder using bloodseeker and my prepvious dagger with high enough DPS and 2.5 HP and it is working pretty good at the moment.I think the build Trefen is building with bloodseeker plus shield will be better for higher maps.lower DPS but much higher Hp and regen
As for zealots oath + blood dance,i ve thought of it,but i decided that it isnt worth it,since u know diamond flask + flicker = certain instant full ES recovery
Hey man :)
Well i build this to farm ultra fast Merci act 3 just for currency with no maps in mind. The random good high lvl drop is always nice but i prefer the constant, fast farm of docks/lunaris: Many rares > alterations > jewellers > fuses. Can farm an Exalt pretty fast ;) plus you get bonus random drops from high IIQ.
It's by no means an end game build, it's just a farm build thus i get the privilledge of using a crappy Tabula rasa to get my bloodmagic without caring much about hp/resists. NOTHING in act3 is hard/fast enough to kill you before you anihhilate em :D And going eldrith was pointless since the dps are already ridiculus for these maps.
This poor shadow has founded all my toons, and all you got to do is...right click :P
I HAVE farm maps, it's doable, but takes more time and i have to drop my precious IIR+IIQ :(
Just for the laughs farming City of Sarn is doable even by linking IIQ+IIR gaems in the 6L!
On side note now, i'm working on this dagger atm I'll imprint it and try my luck exalting it, till i get a nice Phys dmg% on it, meh it may take some time BUT it's all i wanna do. I'm using this atm on my dagger CI shadow
Last edited by DementiaHorror#3842 on Aug 19, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
Hey dementia nice post over there.Nobody commented on my name since nobody else is greek :D.Nice build with dual claws.My cousins ranger at the moment is a dual weilder using bloodseeker and my prepvious dagger with high enough DPS and 2.5 HP and it is working pretty good at the moment.I think the build Trefen is building with bloodseeker plus shield will be better for higher maps.lower DPS but much higher Hp and regen
As for zealots oath + blood dance,i ve thought of it,but i decided that it isnt worth it,since u know diamond flask + flicker = certain instant full ES recovery
Hey man :)
Well i build this to farm ultra fast Merci act 3 just for currency with no maps in mind. The random good high lvl drop is always nice but i prefer the constant, fast farm of docks/lunaris: Many rares > alterations > jewellers > fuses. Can farm an Exalt pretty fast ;) plus you get bonus random drops from high IIQ.
It's by no means an end game build, it's just a farm build thus i get the privilledge of using a crappy Tabula rasa to get my bloodmagic without caring much about hp/resists. NOTHING in act3 is hard/fast enough to kill you before you anihhilate em :D And going eldrith was pointless since the dps are already ridiculus for these maps.
This poor shadow has founded all my toons, and all you got to do is...right click :P
I HAVE farm maps, it's doable, but takes more time and i have to drop my precious IIR+IIQ :(
Just for the laughs farming City of Sarn is doable even by linking IIQ+IIR gaems in the 6L!
Way to go !! Thats a nice idea!\high DPS MF cglass cannon,a proletarian shadow funding other toons!I think i ll stack full MF on my shadow to farm act3 as well.Besides i dont give a shit about dying since the bild is complete and i dont need to level anymore
