Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

Additional leagues dilutes the playerbase. It also requires investment of development time, potentially significant development time and support time. Additional leagues also contributes to general overhead and possibly the addition of physical servers.

This is why there's a lot of use in arguing over the existence of various leagues... from all sides: player, developer, manager.

Yes, but this league will exists regardless so the argument for this particular league is moot.

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Zidjian wrote:

Yes, but this league will exists regardless so the argument for this particular league is moot.

Right. The league has already been confirmed to definitely be included. You not liking it isn't going to change their mind. I don't understand why we're arguing something so trivial. Like implementing a couple rules changes in a separate game instance is going to take one person more than a day or two to implement.

you answering the derp is feeding the derp

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tpapp157 wrote:

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Zidjian wrote:

Yes, but this league will exists regardless so the argument for this particular league is moot.

Right. The league has already been confirmed to definitely be included. You not liking it isn't going to change their mind. I don't understand why we're arguing something so trivial. Like implementing a couple rules changes in a separate game instance is going to take one person more than a day or two to implement.

The discussion wasn't about that really... it was about the fact that you probably can't just change a few rules and be done with it.

Perhaps I'm not making my arguments clear, but the purpose of the statements were to elucidate the fact that more than likely there will be a largely disproportionate amount of effort put into such a league for balancing purposes and fielding problems... which is important due to finite resources.

If they can make a great cut throat league in a few minutes... then great, that's actually super and really great for the players and their company. I just don't think it's going to go down like that based on some theorycrafting.

It's just a discussion of theory ;P we're just waiting for the game... what else do we have to do atm heh

Having a discussion is one thing, but given the fact that, this kind of league IS in the game. Then, any discussion after that is pointless really. I think everyone is aware of your stance on this topic Zeto. Hell, you even got a great response from Chris.

To some degree that's correct, but having a discussion about a feature that is in the game can lead to many things such as:

1. better or different future modeling of time vs. benefit
2. future or early modification

you never know where conversation will take you. The conversation, for instance, confirmed the complexities of griefing in cut throat and that they are working on systems involved with that. I'm sure there are other interesting topics that can seep out as well eventually... although I'm sure most of them will appear after launch.

Discussing the proposed mechanics of a league is much different than arguing over whether a given league should be implemented based on personal preference. If you really want to discuss certain features then by all means bring it up in the leagues thread. I just find the repetitive back and forth over moot topics to be tiring.

Forums are a marathon pre-release haha

Go carb up! Alrighty I'm off to bed :) night

I Like the system of D2, if you could do that it will be perfect for me.