Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Chris wrote:

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tpapp157 wrote:

An allocation time more on the order of 5 seconds may be more reasonable.

The idea is that there's still an adrenaline rush and that the player has to be alert and aware of what items are dropping.

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korosuu wrote:

I thought I would just voice my oppinion on this matter.

FFA looting is boring unless you like the adrenaline from grabbing something you want or that is worth something before someone else you are fighting together with who might need it or want it.

I dont find it fun to party when I consider the fact that I'm playing with people who are being greedy, not by choice but by design that they either trust their allies completely and either get lucky or get screwed over.

So in short, my vote if for individual loot... to promote more partying and teamplay without worry of needing to steal or have items you need the most be stolen from you because someone else plans to make an alt or give the item to an alt or just simply trade it off.

I want to play with other people, I want to constantly just ask people to do content together or just slay monsters because its simply more fun playing with more people... but not if FFA loot system is in place, it hampers the fun of it.

Would it be possible for a default/hardcore league that has individual loot settings? I'll bet a banana that it'll be pretty popular...

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starsg wrote:

Updated April 30th

Concern lists:-

reason for Free-For-All selection
-there is a niche for cut-throat gameplay.

reason for Non-Free-For-All selection
-there is a calling for fair-play gameplay.

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There is 3 solutions i am thinking of:-

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Solution Alpha

Just a simple timer for loot drops:
Timer will starts when item 1st appears.
Timer should be around 3 sec. (considering range player, lag-spike etc)
There no need for player be close to the item, they should be priorized the items they are aftering.
High-Level item drops will not be able to pick up by very low-level player, and vice-verse. (lets say a 10 level difference)
High-Level item drops will not be able to pick up by lower-level player(lets say 5-level difference), until the player that pick up, dropped it.(no vice-verse here)


Lets face it, meele player make use of range player, and range player make use of meele player.


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Solution Bravo

What if there is a selection of items that you can choose of what to find (and priority be given to that)

eg drop list:-
-Orbs
-any Magical Items
-any Rare Items
-any Normal Items
-any 3/4 sockets items
-any 5/6 sockets items
-class items
-everything
Note: the drop list is just an example.

BUT You can only select ONE of it.

The point is, one player can only select one type from the drop list.
Thus fulfilling what item that player looking for.

If the items dropped happened to cross-link, well they have to contest for it.
(eg. player A select Rare item, player B select 5/6 sockets. If an 5 socket rare item drops, they will have to contest for it.)

Contest meant - 2-3 sec timer rule.

The only worry i have, is what effect will it have on the load assets thingy.


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Solution Charlie

All item drops will be assign to each player in the same area. (meaning each player will get one)
Items drop will be based on their own individual % rarity and % quantity finds.
Target items only drop for you, if you attack that target.
Each is able to see theirs only. (even if item is ID and dropped by the owner)


The only benefits that players get in a party, is the higher chance of better drop by attacking together at the same target mob.


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Finally thought,


No rules, well it meant for the free-for-all-camper.
(this should falls in cut-throat league nicely)


Solution Alpha, I feel is more of a middle-camp.
(this should falls in Default and Hardcore leagues nicely)


Solution Bravo, I feel is more of the fair-camper.
(this should falls in private league nicely or )


Solution Charlie, I feel can fit into middle-camper and fair-camper.
(Default and private league should fit here)


BTW, There will always be a niche for either no-rule gameplay or fairness gameplay.
There should be an option for private league to select what type loot system (for GGG's client), its private afterall.

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frogemoth wrote:

I don't know if this suggestion was already posted before, I apologize in advance if it has but there is no way I will read 120 pages of replies.

What about an option where you can select either a free for all drop or dedicated drop? With this system you would only be able to party with people who chose the same drop system as you.