For the Love of GOD !!!!!!! Please give us a god dammed Vending shop

put the item in the shop for set currency item and make the fking sale.

you can trade / pm contact seller for trading or post on the forums if you are so hung up wasting a gazillion hours of your life trying to find some nutcase who may or may not respond properly or in time.


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1.The core appeal of POE is its intricate gear system with a varied mods immeasurable variety of mods on gears due to the RNG.
2. The SO CALLED Diversity of builds facilitated for every character.
3. Due to the sad state of damage mitigation and the heavy desync it is impossible to build characters that reach higher levels unless conform to specific builds. This defeats the point 2
4. Even to reach those so called builds for newer players its near impossible because of the player manipulated prices , multi box users , botters and the general fail ingame trade system , as its instanced.
5. Step 1 problem is 95% of gears are crap due to the RNG and hence people are forced to trade.
6. what shops do is allow for players to make a survivable amount of currency to make a positive progress with effort.

Example case in point Ragnarok Online MMORPG based on gears , classes and trading system. 1. you see a 3rd party site just like poe.xyz.iz equivalent is ragial http://ragial.com/iRO-Renewal
2 .here it shows you exact shop number with its location ingame where the item is available.
3. you can buy for the best price available at that omoent or wait to contact the buyer for trades or other deals.
4. all the trading goes on in the game forums like irowiki forums or the warp portal forums ( official game forums) this forums trading is what we have at the moment. This is influenced by a various factors none encouraging to people trying to enjoy the over all aspect of the game.
5. People should be able to have fun in building a character and making new builds to suit new play styles.
6. This is a misconception that they are able to do so due to the poor damage mitigation and the randomness of the mobs in the map and the map itself and the god forsaken desync.
7. people are forced to rely on tactics like multiple auras even which are a joke if you do not have proper gears for it. that would happen if we had a proper trading system.
8. for all the geniuses that like to quip bullshit like learn to trade and what not
9. Try saying that when you have to restart the game from fresh and come to the level enough to survive the content enough to make meaning full progression , im not talking about high end dps and efficiency here.
10. The trade channels are instanced meaning your efforts at making some trade channel communication is available to a very very limited audience.

lets face it, you cant control RMT, or multiboxers or botters. Thats the fact of any game, the only thing that is worth while in the long term survival of the game is how it treats its new comers and at their chance of playing the game at a level which allows them meaningful progression to enjoy the content.

TLDR, come on man just give us the proper shops. There is no such thing as instant gratification because each item bought there are always a many better alternatives to explore to refine, make efficient , better gear for different situations.

Instant gratification concept applies if there are only a fixed number of gears in value. IT IS NOT THE CASE IN POE

You can already sell your items to NPCs. Are you saying they should pay you a better rate, or are your asking for a trade box that will do all the work of finding buyers and sellers automatically?

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Incompetent wrote:

You can already sell your items to NPCs. Are you saying they should pay you a better rate, or are your asking for a trade box that will do all the work of finding buyers and sellers automatically?

absolutely not, i have never implied any of what you are suggesting.

Let me put it like this ,

you see a thread here?
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/317941 Its a market selling thread ( which pretends to be a shop . the whole market section sadly does) with all the prices specified.

people may or may not find this particular thread in the hundreds of others that get bumped every minute. So they use poe.xyz.iz to find an item and then find the thread associated with it.

the prerequisite of a shop entails that people can actually buy the item when they enter a shop, buy it then and there. sadly that is not the case here.

Think of it as a vending machine , and an actual shop which lets you acquire the item then and there.

There is no instant gratification because all the same conditions apply,
1. you don't know if the price is the best one offered or if an another one would come up cheaper.
2. you can always talk to the seller for bargain on the price assuming no one else buys it out first.
3. There are always better alternatives available.

The time spent in final acquiring the item or the making the actual sale are mitigated through this method.

There is no instant gratification this is POE, there are always better stuff around , there are waaay to many kinds of gear due to RNG and different mods applied on gear.

It entails all the same effort of finding buyers and sellers.

As long as you are not implying that you can buy an item without the owner present. I think the idea of in-game player shops is a good idea.

Stash tab being publicly seen to offer a 'offer for sale' and web-based trading is already in the queue for being added.

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Brigs wrote:

As long as you are not implying that you can buy an item without the owner present. I think the idea of in-game player shops is a good idea.

Of course That is what i am implying . What the heck is wrong with that? You can always contact the owner for trades . even without the shop the scenario does not change that some one else might buy the item before you. every same effort goes in contacting the buyer searching for the shops comparing the prices. The effort and time involved for trading does not change.

It is only the time of acquiring the item that is mitigated. It should be the way because people for every potential item there are lots of alternatives that you can make do with. a majority of the people keep choosing the alternatives that best serves their time at the moment . The really high end items will stay the same in terms of trade. its the lower end and mid end items that will see an increased change of hands.

YOU ARE GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LOWER INCOME GROUP TO GET SOME CURRENCY THROUGH TIMELY FACILITATED TRADING. YOU ARE ALLOWING FOR CURRENCY TO BE CIRCULATED AMONG THE MASSES WITH THIS SYSTEM.

There is No concept of instant gratification in POE , i can say this a zillion times. The game system is much too intricate to even say something like that.

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Dakarian wrote:

Stash tab being publicly seen to offer a 'offer for sale' and web-based trading is already in the queue for being added.

Dont the existing systems ALREADY DO THAT????????

you have poe.xyz.iz and the forums market thread.


Tell me what different purpose does this proposed stash tab solve?

going through stash tabs or going through forums posts or using poe.xyz.iz is all the same just to search for the items.


I am talking about the final stage of that process in trading.

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Zinja wrote:

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Dakarian wrote:

Stash tab being publicly seen to offer a 'offer for sale' and web-based trading is already in the queue for being added.

Dont the existing systems ALREADY DO THAT????????

you have poe.xyz.iz and the forums market thread.


Tell me what different purpose does this proposed stash tab solve?

going through stash tabs or going through forums posts or using poe.xyz.iz is all the same just to search for the items.


I am talking about the final stage of that process in trading.

you mean actually being able to exchange items?

That's what I meant by 'web-based trading. If I heard it right, it's not just some board to let you see what others are offering. I mean I can actually EXCHANGE it with you via the website, without logging in at all.

The impression I'm getting is that it's not automated. I imagine it's somewhat like how most games handle friend lists: I make the request to you, when you get in, you see it and can confirm, then the change happens.

Not sure poe.xyz.iz can do that. I imagine I still have to wait for you to get online with me and meet together.

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Dakarian wrote:

If I heard it right, it's not just some board to let you see what others are offering. I mean I can actually EXCHANGE it with you via the website, without logging in at all.

The impression I'm getting is that it's not automated. I imagine it's somewhat like how most games handle friend lists: I make the request to you, when you get in, you see it and can confirm, then the change happens.

Not sure poe.xyz.iz can do that. I imagine I still have to wait for you to get online with me and meet together.

I am not sure if you realize how Absolutely Ridiculous that sounds? If have to wait to get online to meet people to trade you can just as well log into the game and do just that.
why the hell do you need a website to do it? You are still waiting to meet up people to finish the trade.


What godforsaken purpose does that solve when you can already do that in game?

just the dam listing and sorting of items to view as convenience? poe.xyz.iz does that already.