VIDEO GUIDE ~';..;'~D--> ARCHERMANCER (10K AOE BOW DPS// CI // NECRO//VIABLE CRIT)

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14 points from arrow dodging just to get to unwavering stances and then u need to spend 2 on frenzy, 1 on diamon skin, 1 on IR, and 1 on berserker.

Total of a 19 point investment when an alternative solution can be had for 3-5 points.

I wasn't willing to make that kind of point investment, I found making the 3 point investment and getting 74% total is sufficient. I couldn't possibly see any way you could go CI while spending that many points to get unwavering stances.

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I did not say that I had the same build as you, I have obviously a different one, where US fits :/.
The point is that stun immunity with CI is something that really changes a lot of things, making chayula a very very good item.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz on May 1, 2013, 10:45:31 PM
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Fruz wrote:
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14 points from arrow dodging just to get to unwavering stances and then u need to spend 2 on frenzy, 1 on diamon skin, 1 on IR, and 1 on berserker.

Total of a 19 point investment when an alternative solution can be had for 3-5 points.

I wasn't willing to make that kind of point investment, I found making the 3 point investment and getting 74% total is sufficient. I couldn't possibly see any way you could go CI while spending that many points to get unwavering stances.

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I did not say that I had the same build as you, I have obviously a different one, where US fits :/.
The point is that stun immunity with CI is something that really changes a lot of things, making chayula a very very good item.


I don't see the need for your fatuous response of "....." as
you stated that you had unwaivering stance and CI. I voiced my opinion on the obvious waste of skill points....

I don't see any situation where you could possibly have CI + unwaivering stances + enough ES% to make any type of build even remotely close to being viable in any facet or in any situation.

If you want to link you CI + unwaivering stances build and prove me wrong your welcome to, however take the asinine responses elsewhere if you don't like the build i posted.

I have made 2 other widely successful videos guides and for the most part have a good understanding of this game, the meta-game and it's current state of evolution, and how to progress throughout successful builds.


I have no interest continuing this conversation other then to answer questions regarding my build which you are welcome to ask questions about and I will answer, or if you'd like me to comment on this mystery build you keep referring to your welcome to link it and ask me a question about it.

I was just making a point about stun immunity, that's all. I didn't criticize the fact that you don't have US, and actually I don't care much about it. getting stunned by white mobs is an issue with any CI spec, even with 78% stun avoid bonuses, because then you do get stunned ( and for longer than with a non CI spec obv ), and you can be chain stunned sometimes too. I prefer surviving. And apparently, you do as well since you are wearing eye of Chayula.

My build is melee oriented and US fits just well in it, I can solo maps quite easily with it without amazing gear pieces, so I'm okay thank you for asking.


You seem to feel proud about the guides you posted, good for you, but I don't quite see what this has to do with anything here.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz on May 1, 2013, 11:09:16 PM
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Fruz wrote:
I was just making a point about stun immunity, that's all. I didn't criticize the fact that you don't have US, and actually I don't care much about it. getting stunned by white mobs is an issue with any CI spec, even with 78% stun avoid bonuses, because then you do get stunned ( and for longer than with a non CI spec obv ), and you can be chain stunned sometimes too. I prefer surviving. And apparently, you do as well since you are wearing eye of Chayula.

My build is melee oriented and US fits just well in it, I can solo maps quite easily with it without amazing gear pieces, so I'm okay thank you for asking.


You seem to feel proud about the guides you posted, good for you, but I don't quite see what this has to do with anything here.



If you watched the videos thinking I had an eye of chayula equipped then I must inform you I don't use eye of chayula, I never have, and that is an astramentis. I had no need for the eye of chauyla when i didn't have the three 8% nodes and now that I have them as a safety blanket I am even further away from a zero need.

Thank you for your concerns and comments, it is good to see different peoples perspectives, all I ask is to keep it positive and constructive for the other people reading and related to the build.

Thank you again!
Eh, I don't see any reason to actually pick AD passive, you only have ~6600 evasion (saw it on your video) and 23% evasion chance.. worth it?

I'd rather put the points in the Inner Force passive.
this build looks awesome (I like how its an archer but not with LA or RoA).

I would definitely do it but I will never be able to afford even half of the gear needed for the build :(
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If you watched the videos thinking I had an eye of chayula equipped then I must inform you I don't use eye of chayula, I never have, and that is an astramentis.

Yeah that's my bad, I though it was a Chayula in the gear section and its and astramentis.
I didn't check the equiment in your video, juste looked the playstyle.

I'm glad you are taking it this way now btw =).
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
What do you think about using Blackgleam Cured Quiver?
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Ayu87 wrote:
Eh, I don't see any reason to actually pick AD passive, you only have ~6600 evasion (saw it on your video) and 23% evasion chance.. worth it?

I'd rather put the points in the Inner Force passive.


Well each frenzy charge does give you 4% and my evasion flask brings me up to 9,100 evasion which is a 28% dodge chance against all attacks. If you read the arrow dodging node it does state "doubles CHANCE to avoid projectile attacks" which brings my chaince to evade projectiles of all types to a total of 56%. For 3 nodes it is more then worth it.

without my evasion flask i'm still at 24% and 48% vs projectiles. it bridges the gap also vs stun lock against projectiles.

As good as inner force is, I would never take it over survivability, I may take it over crit chance but not on this build. Hope this helps.

::FUN FACT:: evasion caps at 75%, don't stack it too much.
Last edited by ElmoLiftsBro on May 2, 2013, 1:29:56 PM
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DemoN_M4U2 wrote:
What do you think about using Blackgleam Cured Quiver?


not worth it over the possible quivers we could get with crit and flat damage types, especially since we lose physical damage by using that quiver. This build is purely based around our physical damage.

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