[1.1.1] Dual Dagger CI. Restored for 1.1 and viable even after Vaal Pact nerf.

Could you go dagger and shield and replace dual strike with double strike?

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Dravok wrote:

Could you go dagger and shield and replace dual strike with double strike?

You will loose around 35% dps and gain around 35% ES Pool. Decide for yourself if it is worth it.

For dagger+shield variants you can also look here:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/42623

Playing this build right now on Anarchy, was pretty frustrating 40-60 but now I'm destroying. Question for you, should I use Dream Fragments and an ES helm if I don't have Abyssus? Or Alpha's Howl and a ring with accuracy/resists to hit those caps. Wasn't sure how much the aura buff affected discipline.

EDIT: I have both, just wondering which to get rid of.

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Powerturnip wrote:

Playing this build right now on Anarchy, was pretty frustrating 40-60 but now I'm destroying. Question for you, should I use Dream Fragments and an ES helm if I don't have Abyssus? Or Alpha's Howl and a ring with accuracy/resists to hit those caps. Wasn't sure how much the aura buff affected discipline.
EDIT: I have both, just wondering which to get rid of.

I prefer Alpha's Howl+Accuracy/mana ring - you get nice armor boost. And for Abyssus+Dream Fragments - i just don't need THAT much dps. For me it's 50K aoe with Alphas and 80K aoe with Abyssus. I oneshote with 50K, don't feel the need for Abyssus.

What do you mean 80K dps with curse?What's ur actual dps?

Hello, my main is 92 and I regularly run high maps. Now with that said, my friend who runs high maps with me is tellin me i will one shot my self at least once a day with this build. How Viable is this build for you in high maps? I'm kinda sad as I'm level35 in, and don't want to make a new build...

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Poutsos wrote:

What do you mean 80K dps with curse? What's ur actual dps?

I apply curse to all targets i hit so this is my actual dps calculated using all mechanincs and formulas in excel. This calculations takes into account dps drop from downgrading crit to normal hits because of hit chance (this is missing in current tooltip dps - known bug, tooltim shows higher dps that is actually is for high crit characters). It also use melee splash damage decreas for aoe targets, not the first target that is shown in the in game tooltip.

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Tokenss wrote:

Hello, my main is 92 and I regularly run high maps. Now with that said, my friend who runs high maps with me is tellin me i will one shot my self at least once a day with this build. How Viable is this build for you in high maps? I'm kinda sad as I'm level35 in, and don't want to make a new build...

Oneshoting is map level independant as phys reflect is 18% damage returned everywhere.
To not get oneshot against group with reflect i switch to second dagger set and use discharge blowing up the room with pure elem damage. Then switch back and if rare reflect mob survived discharge i drink granite potion and finish him off - can't oneshot myself against single target. If you ever get even higher dps or decide to run reflect map you switch melee damage on full life to multistrike and crit weaknes curse to warlord's mark - and you won't kill yourself against reflect.

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Xavyer wrote:

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Poutsos wrote:

What do you mean 80K dps with curse? What's ur actual dps?

I apply curse to all targets i hit so this is my actual dps calculated using all mechanincs and formulas in excel. This calculations takes into account dps drop from downgrading crit to normal hits because of hit chance (this is missing in current tooltip dps - known bug, tooltim shows higher dps that is actually is for high crit characters). It also use melee splash damage decreas for aoe targets, not the first target that is shown in the in game tooltip.

So your tooltip is actally higher?

Appreciate your thorough and quick response. I think I'm just gonna try out full melee ci with my dual daggers though.

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Poutsos wrote:

So your tooltip is actally higher?

My tooltip is 50K in the Abyssus. This is for the first target of my splash, with hit check tooltip bug and without curse that doubles my crit damage, with my crit chance on 95% . Don't see how this tooltip will help you.