Orb of Chance Community Log

Two questions:
1) If a base item type (e.g. Onyx Amulet) has multiple Unique outcomes, does that increase the total chance of receiving a unique? Or does it first check if it rolls a unique, then (assuming 3 uniques possible) have a 33% chance of each one, reducing your chance of getting what you actually wanted?
2) Does the ilvl of the base item type influence if you can roll a unique or not? e.g. Orb of Chancing the ilvl 1 Crude Bow could always give you a Silverbranch, but do you need like an ilvl 40+ Onyx Amulet in order to roll an Astramentis or something along those lines? My original assumption was that the unique was available immediately upon having access to the item type, so all Glorious Plate can be Chance'd into a Kaom's Heart, and all Onyx Amulets (even at the lowest possible level you can get one) can still become an Astramentis.

I'm currently saving up Orbs of Chance and +20 Onyx Amulets, and I need to know if I'm doing anything other than gimping my chances of getting weak rares by allowing inferior ilvl amulets in my horde.
Last edited by BooleanCube#4006 on Mar 1, 2013, 2:51:14 PM
"
BooleanCube wrote:
Two questions:
1) If a base item type (e.g. Onyx Amulet) has multiple Unique outcomes, does that increase the total chance of receiving a unique? Or does it first check if it rolls a unique, then (assuming 3 uniques possible) have a 33% chance of each one, reducing your chance of getting what you actually wanted?
2) Does the ilvl of the base item type influence if you can roll a unique or not? e.g. Orb of Chancing the ilvl 1 Crude Bow could always give you a Silverbranch, but do you need like an ilvl 40+ Onyx Amulet in order to roll an Astramentis or something along those lines? My original assumption was that the unique was available immediately upon having access to the item type, so all Glorious Plate can be Chance'd into a Kaom's Heart, and all Onyx Amulets (even at the lowest possible level you can get one) can still become an Astramentis.

I'm currently saving up Orbs of Chance and +20 Onyx Amulets, and I need to know if I'm doing anything other than gimping my chances of getting weak rares by allowing inferior ilvl amulets in my horde.


1) It's the same chance for it to become a unique no matter how many unique types of said item there are. That being said, once it has upgraded to a unique, the chance for it to be the unique you want may be different than the other possible outcomes. For example, Astramentis is probably rarer than Eye of Chayula, but Onyx Amulets (as well as all other base items) have the same chance of becoming a unique regardless of which unique it is - this is how I understand it based on responses from Chris, anyway.

2) It shouldn't matter if the ilvl is the same as the required level as the unique itself. However, there is a bit of an issue where we're unsure whether or not it can be below. For example, purchasing a Sapphire Ring from an Act 1 Normal vendor could result in a ring with an ilvl below that of Dream Fragments (11). Whether or not it's still eligible to upgrade to a unique is unknown currently.
"
zzang wrote:


i would like to believe you but ur two posts doesnt make sense to me

you used 65 to make one and 4 to make a second?


I got my first Kaom's after 4 chances. I've been trying for another and have only received rares/magics.

Yes I know it was all rng and I just landed on the extremely unlikely side of the distribution however I am still going to continue trying for a second one and will have it all recorded.

"
govaguy wrote:


pix or it didn't happen


http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/203234

Forum thread bro. Anything else I can get you?
ign : keyerin
Last edited by keyerin#5976 on Mar 1, 2013, 4:27:15 PM
been a while since my last update

47 chance used on vaal casques

44 magic
3 rare


im starting to think chance orbs are broken >.<
if i ever find Hrimnor's Resolve through chance, ill post a total number of chances used. my notepad file is starting to get very little attention though, i dont buy chance orbs, and theyre starting to not drop much for me...
Last edited by tranxx4#0046 on Mar 2, 2013, 5:09:47 AM
+

can you make the unique map like that?
IGN=FatherOfDragons/TheUnburnt
Last edited by GameOfThrones#5838 on Mar 2, 2013, 9:44:43 AM
To start my data collation.

20 Gold Rings Chanced

18 Magic (Blue)
2 Rare (Yellow)
0 Unique




Plan is to continue on with trying to find an Andvarius. Every batch of 20 will be reported.



Alexis
*smiles*
"
GameOfThrones wrote:
+

can you make the unique map like that?


Yup. Kripparian apparently did it on stream sometime in Closed Beta.
"
Lorfeus wrote:
Glorious Plate (Kaoms Heart)
Total Used (Chance/Scouring): 256
Magic: 215
Rare: 41
Unique: 0


Finally got it :) ♡

Total Tries: 320
Magic: 271
Rare: 48
Unique: 1

@ Lorfine
"
Lorfine wrote:
"
Lorfeus wrote:
Glorious Plate (Kaoms Heart)
Total Used (Chance/Scouring): 256
Magic: 215
Rare: 41
Unique: 0


Finally got it :) ♡

Total Tries: 320
Magic: 271
Rare: 48
Unique: 1



Grats man! Starting to doubt if i'll ever get that lucky.
GogogoScary - 95 HC 40k GS
Scary - 98 Invasion 2H Cyclone
GMT +1
"
chimpanzee wrote:
Working for Meginord's Girdle.
10 orbs used on heavy belts.
Spoiler


Haven't expected this so early lol.
My stats:
8 magic
1 rare
1 unique :P

- - - - - -

Edit: I'll post ALL the statistics I've gathered after MonopolyLegend updated the OP till now here.

Spoiler
Gold rings:
Magic: 15
Rare: 2
Unique: 1

Sapphire Rings:
Magic: 2
Rare: 0
Unique: 0

Eye Gouger:
Magic: 1
Rare: 0
Unique: 0

Heavy Belts:
Magic: 8
Rare: 1
Unique: 1

Total orbs: 31


Are you kidding me? Go try your luck on a lottery ticket.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info