Does PoE greatly benefit from a CPU's 3D V-Cache?

Just watched your comparision video with the i5. Can you please let us know your
experience with the 9800x3d. I'm also on the fence with a 13700k, not sure if I should swap prior to poe 2.

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EmotionalPlayer#5674 wrote:

Can you please let us know your
experience with the 9800x3d

I'm not getting a 9800X3D. It's sold out everywhere and getting more expensive by the day. I bought a 7600X3D instead.

And what do you mean you are on the fence with a 13700K? Yours broken?

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EmotionalPlayer#5674 wrote:

Just watched your comparision video with the i5. Can you please let us know your
experience with the 9800x3d. I'm also on the fence with a 13700k, not sure if I should swap prior to poe 2.

I have the 9800x3d. Performance is significantly better than my old 5800x3d, but I'm still CPU limited near constantly in PoE in endgame juiced mapping.

In other words, the 9800x3d is great, but nowhere near powerful enough to run PoE to perfection.

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Anathema123#0851 wrote:

I have the 9800x3d. Performance is significantly better than my old 5800x3d, but I'm still CPU limited near constantly in PoE in endgame juiced mapping.

Please tell us the rest of your system and what settings you are running at.

For the record, if your FPS isn't capped, you will be CPU limited if you have a powerful enough GPU. Highly depends on how many calculations the engine is forced to do.

I have a set of pre-recorded benchmark footage with the i5-12400 and will compare it when I get my 7600X3D. To be fair, though, it's a $130 CPU and I basically tortured it. The results were actually acceptable.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

Please tell us the rest of your system and what settings you are running at.

For the record, if your FPS isn't capped, you will be CPU limited if you have a powerful enough GPU. Highly depends on how many calculations the engine is forced to do.

I have a set of pre-recorded benchmark footage with the i5-12400 and will compare it when I get my 7600X3D. To be fair, though, it's a $130 CPU and I basically tortured it. The results were actually acceptable.

9800x3d with a 3090.

PoE on all minimum settings, 4k resolution but rendering resolution set to 50%, i.e. 1080p.

On properly juiced endgame maps the CPU is always struggling to keep up with the GPU, as shown by the ingame F1 stat display.

Soon I'll get a 5090 and I'll be able to crank up the graphics and still be CPU limited constantly.

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Anathema123#0851 wrote:

9800x3d with a 3090.

PoE on all minimum settings, 4k resolution but rendering resolution set to 50%, i.e. 1080p.

On properly juiced endgame maps the CPU is always struggling to keep up with the GPU, as shown by the ingame F1 stat display.

Yeah, you are intentionally doing that with the upscaling. You are forcing the CPU to work harder. Minimum settings also contribute. Up your settings and set a global FPS cap in NVCP, i.e. 117FPS for 120Hz. The type of build also matters. You need Predictive Mode for spammy builds or performance tanks on Lockstep. You can also enable Triple Buffering if you need more FPS stability.

Edit: By the way, use CapFrameX to benchmark your average map, best to record it as well, then check the frametime graph. Low FPS isn't necessarily bad. What matters is the frametimes. That it goes up with more spam is logical, but if it's not stable outside of that, you have a different issue going on.

And if your GPU usage is not hovering between 98-100% but constantly shifting, that means your GPU is done with its work and waiting on the CPU, indicating a CPU bottleneck. Something I can currently observe, too.

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Anathema123#0851 wrote:

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

Please tell us the rest of your system and what settings you are running at.

For the record, if your FPS isn't capped, you will be CPU limited if you have a powerful enough GPU. Highly depends on how many calculations the engine is forced to do.

I have a set of pre-recorded benchmark footage with the i5-12400 and will compare it when I get my 7600X3D. To be fair, though, it's a $130 CPU and I basically tortured it. The results were actually acceptable.

9800x3d with a 3090.

PoE on all minimum settings, 4k resolution but rendering resolution set to 50%, i.e. 1080p.

On properly juiced endgame maps the CPU is always struggling to keep up with the GPU, as shown by the ingame F1 stat display.

Soon I'll get a 5090 and I'll be able to crank up the graphics and still be CPU limited constantly.

With those settings it is no surprise that your CPU is struggling. Your GPU is basically falling asleep.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Anathema123#0851 wrote:

9800x3d with a 3090.

PoE on all minimum settings, 4k resolution but rendering resolution set to 50%, i.e. 1080p.

On properly juiced endgame maps the CPU is always struggling to keep up with the GPU, as shown by the ingame F1 stat display.

And if your GPU usage is not hovering between 98-100% but constantly shifting, that means your GPU is done with its work and waiting on the CPU, indicating a CPU bottleneck. Something I can currently observe, too.

Case in point:

the image on the right looks like one messy oil painting.

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I'm not getting a 9800X3D. It's sold out everywhere and getting more expensive by the day. I bought a 7600X3D instead.

And what do you mean you are on the fence with a 13700K? Yours broken?

Ah okay, thanks for the update. No mine isn't broken. I can back order the 9800x3d and get it at a 25% discount off MSRP.

Even then, I feel like this is coping and I'm doing mental gymnastics to justify a switch. When in reality there might be no significant difference with a 13700k.

rtx 3080, 13700k, ddr5 6000mhz, 1440p