[NOT UP TO DATE][11.0e] Vinz's 7-Aura Mass Shock 20k dps LS Build (With Gamplay Video)

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vin_chow wrote:

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Yuufe wrote:

I'm curious if this build would be viable with a one-handed weapon and a shield. Would you recommend using a two-handed sword or one-handed weapon + shield combination?

Personally, I never try 1h + shield myself. I can see a major downside of not using 2H, is the ability to use Kaom's Heart (that is the piece of item you want to get in the future). Besides that, stacking shock will be harder as well due to smaller weapon damage portion, leads to smaller lightning damage.

If Kaoms is out of reach, and you still wish to try out 1h + shield. I would suggest something like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2Bq8VHfmVNhNluaVjbJd--p1PfG_rSTZuDpBnAD4TvAdx07b6Keu94DWBLqW5YrwUttfJN43C7QKCuk26qrFn22u9OIWCmV3q4Mn7-jzIJdPE64bc-GNueuYjxxq5DnDwt_goOrcT28kUUdSmlJ-3nY3RB892sqqTCcqlZ83zZwBpmnpBV-tKnhDbpHRQaOCSq42qPRuw4GYWnCNDQM5ZX4riTm6HPZXM_d-UyiQx9Z71VxkGMBLMQf-5v8B_GnqIAtPkWbxRN while maintaining the use of Elemental Proliferation (for shock stacking).

Okay I see your point. But however, as someone who is starting to build a LS duelist and cannot afford Kaom's would you recommend to use a 1h + shield for the added defense? Not only that, the 1h can be a sceptre which adds +x% elemental damage. So wouldn't that make up for the loss in damage compared to a 2h weapon?

Or possibly the thought of dual-wielding daggers for the crit chance, which means more shock stacks.

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Yuufe wrote:

Okay I see your point. But however, as someone who is starting to build a LS duelist and cannot afford Kaom's would you recommend to use a 1h + shield for the added defense? Not only that, the 1h can be a sceptre which adds +x% elemental damage. So wouldn't that make up for the loss in damage compared to a 2h weapon?

Or possibly the thought of dual-wielding daggers for the crit chance, which means more shock stacks.

Damage wise, 1h should be no where close to 2h because LS scales very well with weapon damage. Do not forget that you will gain more Elemental Damage with a higher physical weapon too(Hatred, Added Fire and the lightning portion of LS).

Dualwield LS can be very strong end game (high CI + dagger x2), but its not an easy task to achieve due to the hit rating and high ES requirement on armors. There are a few reasons that I don't play a dagger CI build:
- I like to support my party with auras which is why I didnt try the CI build (could not run auras with hp)
- I like the idea of Blood Magic support gem (no more worries on mana)
- High crit tend to have problem on reflect map (prefer to have sustained dmg with RT)

Ahh okay. Thank you very much for the information. So if I wanted more DPS increase, I wouldn't haven't to look at ele dmg as much as I want to look for % increased physical damage.

is Multistrike still viable for the build after patch 0.10.7 or is this better

4L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage

5L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attack

6L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attack-Elemental Proliferation

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Biittmmaap wrote:

is Multistrike still viable for the build after patch 0.10.7 or is this better

4L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage

5L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attack

6L
Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Melee Physical Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attack-Elemental Proliferation

It will definitely take a toll on how much DPS we were able to do with Multistrike before. So, we will just have to compare with other support gems after 0.10.7 patch.

how is it possible to run 3 - 40% auras, 1 - 30% auras, and 3 static auras. If you blood magic one of the 40% auras doesnt it take 40% of your total HP? I don't understand, someone please explain this to me.

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Biittmmaap wrote:

is Multistrike still viable for the build after patch 0.10.7 or is this better

I'll do some testing when the patch releases. 40% damage reduction is a big hit on multistrike, shock stacking might be hard on the new patch. Lightning Strike - Blood Magic - Added Fire Damage - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attack - Elemental Proliferation might be the best combination.

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fooloo wrote:

how is it possible to run 3 - 40% auras, 1 - 30% auras, and 3 static auras. If you blood magic one of the 40% auras doesnt it take 40% of your total HP? I don't understand, someone please explain this to me.

3 40% aura + 1 30% aura (determination, purity, haste, hatred) will require you to have Level 19 Reduced Mana and 2 "Reduced Mana Reservation" node from the passive skill tree. Grace, Anger and Wrath will cast with hp pool.

what level is it required for you level 19 reduced mana gem?

edit: nvm i looked it up, level 67 isnt that bad

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fooloo wrote:

what level is it required for you level 19 reduced mana gem?

edit: nvm i looked it up, level 67 isnt that bad

Don't worry too much about the 7th aura - which is Haste. You may want to delay the "Reduced Reservation" node till higher level for more life nodes. Make sure you have inner force before using Haste (else it will only provide 13% aspd from 2 skill points).

Hey there Vin. I've noticed you've updated your current gears. How's the testing with the new update on Multistrike? Is it a really big dent in DPS? I would still think there will be an increase in DPS no matter what because of the increased attack speed that Multistrike provides.

Also, on another note. I'm currently level 41 with 4L (LS + Blood Magic + Faster Attacks + Melee Physical Damage). Sometimes I worry that I might die because of the Blood Magic gem linked to LS. I am using 4 HP Pots and 1 Mana Pot. I was wondering how you gain life leech in this build with BM gem? Is it from your Carnage Heart? If that's the case, would that make Carnage Heart a requirement for this build?


Below is my current gear if you need a gauge:



Even if that's the case wouldn't it still be hard to have life leech with Carnage Heart? Since life leech only applies to physical damage through passives and equipments, and LS converts physical damage to lightning damage how will that work?

This has always been a question that has been on my mind since trying your build. Just need some clarification. :)

P.S. Be kind with the responses. I have been playing PoE for only a month now and have a lot to learn. Thanks!