Ethereal Knives

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Vipermagi wrote:

Not entirely true. It's on a per-hit basis.
You fire a projectile with Pierce and Chain. It hits a monster, and Pierce triggers. Chain is ignored. It then hits a second monster, and Pierce does not trigger this time. It now Chains to a third target (or back to the first). Etc.

That said, it's probably not worth it to use both. You'll be firing a crapload of Knives, sure, but it'll be really expensive and your damage per hit goes to shit. It'll only be useful against the largest of packs.

This is absolutely true for chain and pierce. However, he asked about chain and fork.

The way that works is that fork always trumps chain, but forking can only happen once. For example, there is a pack of monsters directly in front of you, and another pack a screen's length away. You use a Fork Chain projectile on the closest monster at melee range. Since it can fork, it does; the offspring of this fork can no longer fork. Since it didn't chain, it doesn't bounce around the monsters close to you, but the two forked projectiles continue down the screen, bypassing the pack close to you. One of them hits a monster from the further-away pack, and the projectile then chains among them.

That's sort of a depressing example, and sometimes it works better, sometimes even hilariously well. However, one big drawback of fork+chain is that fork is harder to predict and will always happen first, making proper aiming a significant challenge.

Combine EK with Faster Projectiles + Chain + Added Fire Damage + Faster Casting, and the uniques called The Magnate, Ezomyte peak. It deals crazy amounts of damage but you need Eldritch Battery or Blood magic to support it.

Add on hatred aura as well and dual wield wands with projectile speed. Great AOE, great damage, no problems with elemental resist.

When I first played around with the skill it seemed inferior to freezing pulse, but in practise, once you gear and skill around it, it's amazing.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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AlienFromBeyond wrote:

What's the spread on the spell like? Can you tag a guy with more than 1 projectile at close range with it?

No. Only one projectile can hit each target. For This skill, we specifically implemented the ability to turn off the 'shotgun' behaviour for some spell projectiles. No word yet on whether that'll get applied to Fireball, Ice Spear and friends.

I just came across this.

Does this anti-shotgun effect apply to Spark as well?

I was thinking at point blank range that all 3 were hitting the same target, and all 3 doing damage.

I would greatly appreciate some feedback on this.

Sorry for the Spark question in this thread, but I didn't know there was an anti-shotgun type effect in the game. Spark seems like they still might all hit? EK seems different.

Edit: Also, someone said Point Black passive doesn't work with Ethereal Knives, is that true?

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Vipermagi wrote:

1. Iron Grip applies to Projectile Attacks. Since EK is a Spell, it's not an Attack. :)

Ah, I didn't realize this either...

Thanks.

How does EK work with point blank? Is the damage calculated from the max range a EK knife can travel, in this situation EK damage would fall of really fast since it travels a short distance, or does point blank have its own static numbers, ie. from player to 200 pixels 50% more dmg, 200-400 20% more dmg etc. ?

point blank works on attacks not spells, ek is a spell.