Clarifying the Ascendancy Changes

That's uh... A yikes from me gamer. This is horrible reasoning to just straight nerf a lot of ascendancies. xD
Lol GGG.... Some MINOR NERFS?! You made several ascendancies that are already barely played completely useless. You used your livestream to hype people up, then on the back-end, like you always do, nerfed the hell out of a bunch of ascendancies. You removed a TON of the + damage modifiers that kept those ascednancies even slightly relevent. Goooood job! (Sarcasm)
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kanzaki01 wrote:
To all Necromancers :

Stop whining, minions have been, and are, still OP. Jesus, even with some nerfs.

Lame way of playing the game, it's way too easy and rewarding for the playstyle.


No they are not (unless you were an aura stacking golemancer whcih is gone now). Minions have been nerfed EVERY PATCH since blight league and they will likely continue to be nerfed like that until they are in a pre-blight league state.

Remember, GGG took 5 YEARS to make minions endgame viable. That is how little they care about pet builds.
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kanzaki01 wrote:
To all Necromancers :

Stop whining, minions have been, and are, still OP. Jesus, even with some nerfs.

Lame way of playing the game, it's way too easy and rewarding for the playstyle.


Bro, have you tried using skeletons in league encounters that have timers? Almost every other build can get massive rewards from Delirium or Legion without thinking about it. Skeleton summoners are lucky to get a couple Simulacrum splinters and above 5 on the first reward.

Also, have you tried reaching 400+ depth in Delve with skeletons?

These necro nerfs just made timed leagues and rewarding Delve encounters even more unreachable for players who can't afford to spend 50ex+.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish.
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Jan 11, 2021, 9:02:22 PM
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Estreiher wrote:
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underwater1998 wrote:


For those who say, Juggernaut or Slayer got nerfed, I must say, you're kinda wrong. They got buffed.
Having the perma leech on Slayer on a 2 points it's pretty good.
Undeniable from Jugg, got buffed, you get a lot more accuracy now in the end, and, as well as having more attack speed than before.



Well, I'm waiting until I see patchnotes but atm Slayer (my favorite class) has lost 50% bonus damage while leeching. True, nodes were shifted so it's easier to get defensive layer now but in the end my damage dealing capabilities are going to be reduced. This change will prolly be good for people who weren't going fully into leech nodes, yet for me it's a bit of disappointment.

Yet, I'm waiting to see the rest of the changes.


my dude, 50% >increased< damage is almost nothing and ends up being a lot less due to diminishing returns
Last edited by leafyr0kr#4392 on Jan 11, 2021, 9:03:26 PM
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Sweasy wrote:
Why did you nerf already not played classes though? Like why does Raider with Chase and Slaughter now miss 30% inc dmg with 10 Frenzy charges compared to before before? Like the class was already unplayable. Now you take away 30% inc dmg for 10% inc atk speed.
Please buff underplayed classes and nodes that are not used... And not nerf them for no reason. TY
So many classes are just stricktly nerfed here for no reason.
Buff the weak ones... Nerf AOE across the board.
Play freaking Hades and copy some ideas there if you are out of ideas.


Raider will be played. Only ascendancy that can move fast.
The Assassin changes are so bad and just a straight nerf. The worst thing is - it costs him Movementspeed and Defense. I would have been fine with less Damage... but movmentspeed makes the playstyle much more enjoable, and denfense is just to rare, thus important, in this game...


You lose 34% movement speed for mapping - you gain 10% with the Elusive Buff

You lose 8% permanent Damage Reduction - you gain 10% reduced Damage Taken in extremely rare conditions. That's just so bad. That's not a "specialisation" change, that's a nerf!


"When we introduced Ascendancy Classes, we wanted to provide ways for players to specialise their characters even further."

These changes doesn't contribute anything for specialising Assassin. He just got nerfed.
Last edited by Rake7#7894 on Jan 11, 2021, 9:13:28 PM
I'm curious about the effect all this is going to have on the power curve.

I appreciate the clarity in some of the swaps - nodes having a clear theme & not having attack damage tacked on the end (or whatever).

I definitely appreciate the general buffing of defences that's gone on.

But when I see an awful lot of 'removed 40% increased; added 5% more' type swaps, I wonder if they're not going to over-buff the top end while leaving the entry/midgame level noticeably worse off.
dupe
Last edited by Lakh#0167 on Jan 11, 2021, 9:16:02 PM
Cancel each other out? some ascendancies were literally destroyed, stripped of half of the stuff, nothing added, just removed :D

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