Patch Notes - 0.10.4 Patch Notes - Forum

" thelordrahl wrote: " sadkitten wrote: put everyone on the same playing field. Already been done with this patch. Everyone IS on the same playing field. This patch didn't do that, multiboxers will still port in alts to do infinite boss runs, they'll still clear maps and move their alts to the boss and get the kills. The only difference is it will take a little bit more time/effort. So the casual multiboxer got hosed, the top end ones, not even close. Also it should be pointed out that its an inconvenience to multiboxers at best, while adding the same inconvenience to the entire community all over some conceived imbalance that less than 1% of the population somehow created. Last edited by sadkitten#4200 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:49:54 AM	Posted by sadkitten#4200 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:47:01 AM Quote this Post
Basically: if you are physically (and alive) not near boss when the final hit is done 'your' part of loot remains in Vaal Stash. Good change imho. And i agreee that this patch IS NOT ENOUGH to hurt top-end and most corrupting multiboxers/exploiters. Last edited by KarraKurri#7943 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:48:54 AM	Posted by KarraKurri#7943 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:47:41 AM Quote this Post
" IceLancerSR wrote: CYCLON VIDEO Proof of a Problem! http://youtu.be/23WzMOMyzBc So i hav my perma-spin video up, check it out before say it's a lie :) http://youtu.be/c8jFfGRt9g0 BTW as i say: I'm playing Facebraker/Blood Magic 5L (Cyclone-added fire-melee phy dmg-faster attacks-life leech) and don't even notice the cost, actually i can perma-spin. I'm lvl68 -3k hp- 140hp recovery -92mana cost- An also as i say, you need to check your build or items, any (or both) sucks. P.D. Sorry for the quality, i'm just to lazy to shut others peoples mouths (IceLancerSR, cof cof), but if more people asks for the build or items i'm using i can do it better (but plz don't) :P Last edited by Neomikron#3203 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:02:19 AM	Posted by Neomikron#3203 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:52:07 AM Quote this Post
I don't get all the whining in this thread..... What players "control" what economy ? There is no online auction house, no "fixed price table". You do not HAVE to trade. I got to maps without "hand-me-downs" and without multiboxing and without trading and without partying. If the main goal of players is to get to lvl99 in the shortest way possible with the most uber gear possible (which they did not farm themselves) then where is the enjoyment ? No other players hold my economy ransom. After my first char farmed some stuff I started alts and now they can own with pre-found gear. No need to trade with anyone. People are just whiners and childish. "The templar is the perfect choice of an honorable man, a true gentleman. He is a man of god. His words are true and pure. Finally, he wears no pants because he has no shame to hide." Aerthas, 2014 Last edited by mothra74#7910 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:56:59 AM	Posted by mothra74#7910 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:54:37 AM Quote this Post
" Boned wrote: " Chris wrote: [/b] Item drops from monsters are now calculated based on the number of players nearby (13 metres - around six tiles, which is approximately a screen) rather than the number in the instance. The quantity of drops is based on the minimum of the number of players who were around at the start and end of the fight. This means that if you spawn a boss alone before bringing in friends to help (or if the friends leave during the fight) then it will only drop enough items for one person. All good and happy with this change, however I do have an issue I would like to raise. I do assume it was probably insanely bad RNG but it does bring some things up. A friend of mine and I just ran 6 maps after the patch. For anyone who ever used arc/lightning arrow/spark/fork/chain etc, you all should have seen sometimes broken urns/barrels etc with some stuff dropping from them more than a screen away from where you are standing and fighting. After this patch, none of the urns/barrels/whatever breakable stuff that was offscreen produced ANY items. And since it was me using arc in this case linked with culling, iiq and iir gems (maps 50%+, personal iiq of 105 with gem, iir 226 with gem), I cant help but wonder, did maybe something fall through the cracks? Regards, S. Actually I would like to know this as well. Not so much about the environmental objects but about mobs themselves. As in, say my minions kill something 1-2 screens away from where I am fighting. Will the drops consider other people in the group? Or just me? Or maybe not even me?	Posted by KozPaz#3408 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:55:10 AM Quote this Post
" thelordrahl wrote: " Chris wrote: Item drops from monsters are now calculated based on the number of players nearby (13 metres - around six tiles, which is approximately a screen) rather than the number in the instance. The quantity of drops is based on the minimum of the number of players who were around at the start and end of the fight. This means that if you spawn a boss alone before bringing in friends to help (or if the friends leave during the fight) then it will only drop enough items for one person. Ahahahaha. Suck it, multibox-afker's. " Jiman wrote: I dont care if people multibox, however if you want to multibox, why dont you have a full group suited up ready to take the punishment rather then stand there and be a doll thats only reason to exist is to be present. So ya, every multiboxer tearing makes me laugh because this still doesnt mean you CANT multibox, it just means its harder to work toward. Legitimate, non-multibox solo party farming got ruined by this patch. Multiboxing low level bosses will still work fine. You don't get mass chaos orbs, but you still get tons of alt>jeweler>fusing. You know how sometimes your stupid team runs off and leaves a rare? It will now drop garbage even though it has +250% life. Now I will have to invade pub teams and stay just the right distance away or else multibox. GGG has no comment on this, so I guess they don;t care. Again, legitimate players suffer because they do the wrong type of fix for multiboxers. Last edited by Chypre#0921 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:55:33 AM	Posted by Chypre#0921 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:55:21 AM Quote this Post
" KarraKurri wrote: Basically: if you are physically (and alive) not near boss when the final hit is done 'your' part of loot remains in Vaal Stash. Good change imho. And i agreee that this patch IS NOT ENOUGH to hurt top-end and most corrupting multiboxers/exploiters. Why not just add player X command and let everyone set their own difficulty while achieving rewards for being able to do it? Sounds a lot easier than to keep putting in systems that hamper everyone because of a non issue, aka multiboxing.	Posted by sadkitten#4200 on Mar 20, 2013, 12:55:52 AM Quote this Post
Adding something like this without game rebalance, drop rates rebalance and overall rebalance of basically everything will cause massive hyperinflation and market will be flooded by items from whole playerbase that now can farm with +300IIQ. Some builds are so OP that they can easily farm with IIR gear with /player 6 command. Maybe its is solution but rushing this will broke game in one week or even one day. Economy of D3 was broken couple hours after launch lol just because instanced loot and steady but very fast and strong flow of items from drops. That is one of the reasons why GGG want to stay with FFA loot also. Last edited by KarraKurri#7943 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:03:59 AM	Posted by KarraKurri#7943 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:00:41 AM Quote this Post
" Chypre wrote: " thelordrahl wrote: " Chris wrote: Item drops from monsters are now calculated based on the number of players nearby (13 metres - around six tiles, which is approximately a screen) rather than the number in the instance. The quantity of drops is based on the minimum of the number of players who were around at the start and end of the fight. This means that if you spawn a boss alone before bringing in friends to help (or if the friends leave during the fight) then it will only drop enough items for one person. Ahahahaha. Suck it, multibox-afker's. " Jiman wrote: I dont care if people multibox, however if you want to multibox, why dont you have a full group suited up ready to take the punishment rather then stand there and be a doll thats only reason to exist is to be present. So ya, every multiboxer tearing makes me laugh because this still doesnt mean you CANT multibox, it just means its harder to work toward. Legitimate, non-multibox solo party farming got ruined by this patch. Multiboxing low level bosses will still work fine. You don't get mass chaos orbs, but you still get tons of alt>jeweler>fusing. You know how sometimes your stupid team runs off and leaves a rare? It will now drop garbage even though it has +250% life. Now I will have to invade pub teams and stay just the right distance away or else multibox. GGG has no comment on this, so I guess they don;t care. Again, legitimate players suffer because they do the wrong type of fix for multiboxers. +1, that's another terrible thing the current change causes, admittedly my suggestion doesn't resolve this issue but it does reduce the likelihood of it being possible. Computer specifications: Windows 10 Pro x64 \| AMD Ryzen 5800X3D \| ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) Motherboard \| 16GB 3600MHz RAM \| MSI Geforce 1070Ti Gamer \| Corsair AX 760watt PSU \| Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD & WD Black FZEX HDD	Posted by Nicholas_Steel#0509 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:01:22 AM Quote this Post
does this mean its no longer possible to reach +5 max resists on purity? I can't think of any way to get +3 skill levels.	Posted by Asmosis#7365 on Mar 20, 2013, 1:18:41 AM Quote this Post